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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    _ Is there any way to contain the water in spillway we cross over going to Baton Rouge & trap it until the rivers start to go down in level? & Thanks for the other info. I just hope politics doesn't take precident over what's best for the most people & property in the decision making by the powers that be. _
    It's a spill way (hydraulic conveyance) not a retention basin (hydraulic capacitance).

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    Helmut...or any of you others with the expertise...what was the water level in Henderson Lake in 1973?

    Some are saying 10 feet above current levels, which would be about 24 feet...since Henderson levels are now at 14.2 feet.


    igeaux.mobi


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    FYI, Corp of Engineers latest inundation map of basin flooding.

    http://images.ibsys.com/2011/0507/27809711.jpg


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    Thanks for the map. If I am reading correctly, it is showing Henderson Lake in "green"...which is 10 to 15 feet above current levels. Ouch! That would be very scary.

    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    FYI, Corp of Engineers latest inundation map of basin flooding.

    http://images.ibsys.com/2011/0507/27809711.jpg



    igeaux.mobi

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    I am offshore and we got a call from Venice saying that the water is starting to rise. I sure hope I can get out of here come Tuesday morning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    _ FYI, Corp of Engineers latest inundation map of basin flooding.

    http://images.ibsys.com/2011/0507/27809711.jpg _
    Well you beat me to the punch. I was just about to post it. Thanks for letting people know.

    For any other information you guys may want to know got to www.mvn.usace.army.mil Then click on the big red 2011 flood fight link.

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    One thing you have to remember is that the inundation map gives estimated depth of water above ground level. Not water surface elevation. Most of the public data given by the Corps and the Weather service give flood information as water surface elevation relative to mean sea level (MSL). If you try to correspond any inundation data with flood stage data without taking into consideration your ground elevation you will be making a terrible mistake.

    If you have property and the ground elevation is 15.0 feet above MSL and they predict a crest of 18.0 feet MSL then your property will be inundated by 3 .0 feet of water. The inundation map is reflecting the 3.0 feet of water on your property NOT the 18.0 foot elevation of the water surface.

    On the other hand when they publish a stage (water surface) at 20.0 that does not mean 20.0 feet above the ground. It means the water surface is 20.0 above MSL. MSL being the eventual level the water wants to seek. At the lower reaches of the river you may see two predicted crests on two different days because they may be anticipating higher tides on a subsequent day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biged05 View Post
    _ Charliek--sorry about that, that's why I said I hope I didn't mis-understand anyone. If everything would fail that would be catastrophic and it would change everyones life around here. Lafayette might be the new port city then...lol

    CajunRed---it's hard to say what would happen. I know they are running models to get a feel for it and present to the higher powers that will make the decision, and none of those are being released at this time. Once things are released, I'll let you know where to find the info.

    igeaux.mobi _
    No problem at all your insite is very helpfull. What I was trying to understand is lets say there is too much water for the control structrue and morganza and the river changes course lets say at the control structure or just above where the rivers come real close to each other. Is the basin levee system designed to contain all that water untill the atchafalaya channel is scoured enough to carry the water load? Or is it a situation where if that happens we are all screwed?

    Thanks again I have been interested in this topic for a while and have read rising tide, and crevasse! as well as mcphee's holding back nature but have never found a clear explanation of what happens if the unthinkable occurs.

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    Tell me that it wasn't too many Pat O'Brien Hurricanes----- but when you look at the river from Jackson Square the river looks higher than where you stand ---TRUE??????


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Tell me that it wasn't too many Pat O'Brien Hurricanes----- but when you look at the river from Jackson Square the river looks higher than where you stand ---TRUE?????? _
    It's not the Pat O's - it is!

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