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  1. UL Baseball It might be time ...

    for Coach Robe to get on the phone and attempt to add some good in-state road opponents to the schedule.

    When the season began, the out of conference slate seemed reasonable, if not as sexy as in previous years. Wichita State, Texas State, Northwestern State, Lamar, Minnesota, St. John's, South Florida, Hawaii, and Louisiana-Monroe seemed to account for a reasonable SOS. Even, Sam Houston, McNeese State, Southern, Southeastern Louisiana, Harvard, Miami-Ohio, Louisiana Tech, and Nicholls State would hold serve. Right?

    Well, this is not happening. Although we are still a couple of weeks away before the RPI really begins to solidify, the early returns are a little worrisome. Only Wichita State, Hawaii, Northwestern State, Texas State, Louisiana Tech, South Florida, Sam Houston State, and Lamar have pRPIs in the Top 100 (14 games), with most at the lower end of that range. Only three of those schools are in the Top 50. Many teams on the schedule have been a disappointment thus far. Hopefully Louisiana Tech will continue to improve and up their RPI once they get into the WAC. Rice is beatable and San Jose State will provide some decent competition.

    It gets worse. The Sun Belt is down this year. This is not a three bid year for the Sun Belt. Likely, one or two teams will go to the postseason this year, barring a solid #2 in the Sun Belt and a conference tournament upset. Two teams made postseason play last year with a tournament upset. There is only one team in the Sun Belt capable of a regional championship. More than half of the league has a pRPI of less than 150. Only two schools are in the Top 100 (ASU and FIU are flirting with the Top 100). Conference play is always tough and this means many chances for losses against lowly rated opponents. Which will be tough on the Cajuns' pRPI and in some cases could even result in RPI penalties.

    At this point in the season, the toughest remaining games on the schedule are this weekend against South Alabama. The weekend series against Texas-Pan American really hurts because this is another opponent outside of the Top 150 being brought in for a home series. We have enough of those in conference play. As more and more of these low rated RPI squads get entered into the record, the RPI rating will take a hit. Often a loss against a highly rated opponent is better than a win against a lowly rated opponent.

    The Cajuns do have two more games against Northwestern State (one on the road). They also have a home and home with Lamar as well as a road tilt with Louisiana-Monroe. Finally, two games (one a resumption of a game in which the Cajuns trail) against Sam Houston State at home. But I do not think this is going to be enough.

    Assuming there is anticipated room on the schedule, I would give Tulane a call (just for this season) to see if they would be interested in hosting the Cajuns for a midweek game. During the week before they play Texas-Pan American would be a good time (no conference series that weekend). Tulane has a midweek game against UNO that week and plays at Charlotte (CUSA) the following weekend. Charlotte should not give them much trouble. Heck, see if they would be interested in two games or schedule another with Northwestern State. The schedule is going to be a drag on the Cajun RPI as the season goes on unless they win an unusually high percentage of those games. Despite the quality ball club, I just do not see the Cajuns going 20-4 in conference play. And the midweek games can be tough when you run out your #4 starter against a weekend starter. They are tough even when facing the #4 starter.

    Just some thought for consumption ...

    Brian


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    Originally posted by GoneGolfin
    Assuming there is anticipated room on the schedule, I would give Tulane a call (just for this season) to see if they would be interested in hosting the Cajuns for a midweek game.
    What are the chances of Jones saying "Sure"

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    I admire coach Robe for not playing Tulane and LSU A&M. They want it to be on their condition only and that is away at thier places. Screw them, if that is the way they want to be. Also, to go along with RPI, as we just saw in basketball, it doesnt matter to a certain extent! The Cajuns are solidly in the Top 25 and aside from some crazy slump(which even with a top RPI couldnt save them) they will be in there the whole time. Even if they drop, they get enough recognition to receive votes on a weekly basis to be able to be in the tournament at the end of the season.

    If seeding is where there is a concern, lets just say this....no matter what happens, UL is going to get the shaft when it comes to seeding regardless! Chances are that Tulane and LSU A&M with both be nationally seeded and will not sniff each other in the tournament, unless they both go to the CWS. Cajuns may have to go through one of them to get there, but we are ahead of ourselves to worry about that anyway. I know the big concern is going to be having the Cajuns hosting a region. To be honest, we are going to have to win the conference to do it anyway. Sure there is an outside shot, but we need to do it the ole fashioned way...win!

    I dont think we need to sweat this issue, as long as the Cajuns win their games, the peices will fall as they should!


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    I would think that would depend on a few things ...

    1) If Tulane gets an opening on its schedule. Currently, their schedule is at the NCAA max of 56 games and they have not had a rainout.

    2) The date of the proposed game. If the date taxes either clubs' pitching too much (Ex. a difficult weekend conference series pending), they would need to look for another date. I believe both clubs have at least one midweek game already scheduled each week throughout the remainder of the season.

    3) The financial terms of the arrangement.

    Brian


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    I don't wnat UL to prostitute itself off to these big prgrams like LSU and Tulane. If they agree to play here to then I'm all for it but our program has gotten where it is right now without having go to LSU or Tulane to play everytime.


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    lxa656 said:
    Also, to go along with RPI, as we just saw in basketball, it doesnt matter to a certain extent!
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    This is not true for baseball. The NCAA Basketball and NCAA Baseball selection committees are different entities and do not share the same selection process. The NCAA Division I Baseball selection committee, unfortunately, has always stressed the use of the RPI since Wally Groff introduced it to the committee roughly a decade ago. Until the selection process criteria changes, RPI is going to be very important.

    lxa656 said:
    The Cajuns are solidly in the Top 25 and aside from some crazy slump(which even with a top RPI couldnt save them) they will be in there the whole time.
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    The Cajuns are not solidly in the Top 25. They are on the fringe of falling out and have in one poll already.

    But again, this is not just about making the tournament. The goal for the Cajuns should be to host another regional. To do that this time, I think they will need to be a #1 seed. That will be extremely difficult with this schedule.

    lxa656 said:
    If seeding is where there is a concern, lets just say this....no matter what happens, UL is going to get the shaft when it comes to seeding regardless!
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    UL has not gotten the shaft in past seasons. They have been seeded fairly in each season they have been a participant of the postseason.

    lxa656 said:
    Chances are that Tulane and LSU A&M with both be nationally seeded and will not sniff each other in the tournament, unless they both go to the CWS.
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    And if they are both national seeds, they will have earned it. And it will be the first time that both Tulane and LSU are national seeds (or any two schools from Louisiana).

    lxa656 said:
    I know the big concern is going to be having the Cajuns hosting a region. To be honest, we are going to have to win the conference to do it anyway.
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    Sure we are. Because as I said, this time they will need to be a #1 seed. They will need to win the Sun Belt conference title to be a #1 seed.

    But what I am saying is that this will probably not be enough. Despite the winning, the schedule will make a #1 seed difficult.

    Brian


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    I guess we will have to see! I think as long as they take care of business, everything will work out for them as it should! But we can disagree on this.


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    clutch0364 said:
    I don't wnat UL to prostitute itself off to these big prgrams like LSU and Tulane.
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    UL is not prostituting itself if this is a one-time deal with Tulane, as I suggested. This would be a purely self-motivated action to raise the strength of the UL schedule in a year when the schedule is suffering. I would rather travel to Tulane for a game this season than potentially miss out on a higher seed or regional because the SOS is not quite strong enough.

    Meanwhile, I also suggested adding a fourth Northwestern State game.

    Brian


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    Originally posted by GoneGolfin
    I would think that would depend on a few things ...
    So you are saying it probably won't happen, it would just be nice if it could. . . . ?

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    Turbine said:
    So you are saying it probably won't happen, it would just be nice if it could. . . . ?
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    I am not expecting it to happen. But the point was that the Cajuns would help themselves if they added a game with Tulane or Northwestern State. They do play Northwestern State three times this season, but every additional game against good RPI squads helps the SOS.


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