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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    _ I do see both Notre Dame and Long Beach State (cajun wins) both receiving votes, which puts them in the top 35. _
    yessir, like Brian always says, we want to keep winning and we want everyone else to win too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSUalum1 View Post
    LSU shouldn't be ranked IMO. Yes, five of those losses were to number 1 and number 2, but only one of those games were competitive. The only good win was against number 8 Texas.

    However, LSU beat Kentucky 2 out of 3 and the Wildcats are still ahead of the Tigers, so who knows.

    My question is if LSU does make a regional, will Lady Cajun Park be finished enough that the NCAA will allow UL to host?

    I think it would be great if Yvette coached her last game in Lafayette. (And if the Tigers did advance that would be even better).
    Last word was that it would be ready for the Sun Belt Conference tournament, which the Cajuns host this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    _ I do see both Notre Dame and Long Beach State (cajun wins) both receiving votes, which puts them in the top 35. _
    Not necessarily in terms of the RPI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSUalum1 View Post
    _ My question is if LSU does make a regional, will Lady Cajun Park be finished enough that the NCAA will allow UL to host?

    I think it would be great if Yvette coached her last game in Lafayette. (And if the Tigers did advance that would be even better). _
    I guarantee that is the last thing YG wants. She can't beat the LADY CAJUNS (Premiere SOftball team in LA by far) in her litter box park in Baton Rouge, she couldnt' win a Regional at Lady Cajun park when she was coaching here. The sport passed YG by about 3-4 years ago.

    GEAUX UL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    _ Last word was that it would be ready for the Sun Belt Conference tournament, which the Cajuns host this year. _
    Word was also that it would be ready in November. At the snail's pace it's going, I strongly doubt that it will be completely finished this season. Will that be a factor in potentially hosting a regional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Being ranked earns you, "hosting a tourney" points
    I've spent a lot of time researching and reviewing baseball & softball post season selections etc. I do not believe the selection committee gives any credence to the polls. The amount of data they have available to them is very large and much more relevant than other peoples opinions.

    If you see Scott Farmer ask him if he has ever had the polls come up during a selection committee meeting. I'll ask if I see him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    I've spent a lot of time researching and reviewing baseball & softball post season selections etc. I do not believe the selection committee gives any credence to the polls. The amount of data they have available to them is very large and much more relevant than other peoples opinions.

    If you see Scott Farmer ask him if he has ever had the polls come up during a selection committee meeting. I'll ask if I see him.
    I think your statement works both ways, because I have seen "top 25" teams travel to far off regionals for unexplained reasons. I don't think they are too worried what a team's "rank" is
    igeaux.mobi

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    Who is the contracting company for the ballpark


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    I've spent a lot of time researching and reviewing baseball & softball post season selections etc. I do not believe the selection committee gives any credence to the polls. The amount of data they have available to them is very large and much more relevant than other peoples opinions.

    If you see Scott Farmer ask him if he has ever had the polls come up during a selection committee meeting. I'll ask if I see him.
    I don't think they do either, but at the same time if they are on the committee they will pay attention to the sport all year. This includes looking at polls. If they were not they didn't take their job seriously. But they do.

    Now then, once in the selection room and for the first time they see name (a) who is not ranked as opposed to team (b) who they have seen in the polls all year . . . the constant year long reminder can only be an advantage. Even if it is only subliminal.

    jmo
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    Who is the contracting company for the ballpark
    The great unkown, as far as I know. All I have heard is they are out of Florida.
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I don't think they do either, but at the same time if they are on the committee they will pay attention to the sport all year. This includes looking at polls. If they were not they didn't take their job seriously. But they do.

    Now then, once in the selection room and for the first time they see name (a) who is not ranked as opposed to team (b) who they have seen in the polls all year . . . the constant year long reminder can only be an advantage. Even if it is only subliminal.

    jmo
    igeaux.mobi
    I follow both sports pretty closely. I have looked at one baseball poll this year and none of the softball polls.

    I think your premise is flawed a bit. If they are doing their job there isn't a team they "see for the first time" in the selection room.

    My point is this. The general public has available to them the polls in an easy to obtain format. If they want more than that they have to start digging around.

    The selection committee on the other hand has available to them a mass of data provided by the NCAA statistician on a regular basis during the season. It increases as the season nears an end. The polls aren't part of that data. The NCAA softball championship handbook spells it out the criteria below.

    Primary Criteria
    • Ratings Percentage Index (25% the institution’s winning percentage; 50% opponents’ success; 25% opponents’ strength of schedule); also bonus points for
    wins against the top 50 teams and penalty points for losses against the teams 225 and above.

    • Head-to-head competition.
    • Results of the RPI

    --record against ranked teams 1-25; 26-50, 51-100; 101-150;
    --average RPI win;
    --average RPI loss.
    • Results versus common opponents.
    • Significant wins and losses.
    • End of season results

    That is a lot of data for a lot of teams. Not a lot of poll watching time left.

    Fans watch polls. NCAA selection committee members watch data.

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    There is a reason advertisers run their commercials over and over.

    For top of mind awareness, it works.

    Being ranked in the polls is a nationally broadcast commercial.

    It can't hurt, it can only help.

    jmo
    igeaux.mobi


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