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    Wait a minute zephyr.

    This admin learned from the last admin that you can get away with throwing a couple seasons away, provided you make a good hire later.

    To me it's a lot like rooting for your fave pro team to lose so you can get a good draft choice. Not good.
    igeaux.mobi


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    And how do you know she would be a great interim coach? Do you have some insight into that conclusion? Instead of being able to make a proper search and evaluation on future pay, I'd rather not go that route. This does not guarantee success or any type of immediate solution to the problem.
    Great $avings equals great interim.
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    _ Wait a minute zephyr.

    This admin learned from the last admin that you can get away with throwing a couple seasons away, provided you make a good hire later.

    To me it's a lot like rooting for your fave pro team to lose so you can get a good draft choice. Not good.
    igeaux.mobi _

    Turbine, if you feel that the administration has bastardized the program and sacrificed the ability to win while setting up longer term goals to secure good coaches with proper funds, then you are free to criticize. I think that we all agree that on the surface, the hires made in basketball and football have been nothing but positive so far and If you feel that has hurt the program, please say that. You'd likely be in the minority. The economics of the collegiate landscape is not pretty nor fair for a team witht he budget of UL and the resource limitations. That doesn't mean that the administration in place doesn't have bigger plans for success in the future. A football coach and basketball coaching change is a multiyear decision and often has a lasting effect on a program either good or bad. Had we made the changes when we perhaps were not ready to, we would likely not have been in the position to make the proper choices and those choices could have put us back years. The same can be said for this hire. Your suggestion of an interim route doesn't make much sense and I don't feel it can do anything but hurt us in the longrun if it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ Turbine, if you feel that the administration has bastardized the program and sacrificed the ability to win while setting up longer term goals to secure good coaches with proper funds, then you are free to criticize.
    That is their stance but it doesn't hold water because if they were making an attempt at setting up longer term goals with proper funds they could add a quick $70G by going interim.

    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Your suggestion of an interim route doesn't make much sense and I don't feel it can do anything but hurt us in the longrun if it doesn't work.
    What is it you are expecting to work? It is a money saving move nothing more.

    While you have a "known, unknown" in interim (thank you Donald Rumsfeld) you have a "known, known" in Rogers.

    You know, Gay Nix went from 1-26 one year to 12-16 the next, but that doesn't mean keeping her was good move. Rogers did improve his record a total of 2 games this year and there are actually people running around the athletic department praising his improvement, however. However that does not leave room for anyone to claim an interim could possible hurt the program in the long run.

    jmo

    Geaux Cajuns

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    Why do the female basketball players deserve any less than the men when it comes to quality coaching. Its sad that we accept this. Turbine I agree if not hire a new coach for supposed financial or AD to busy reasons let an asst step up or interim. Rogers has proven he cannot produce so move on for the women who are committed to us they deserve no less than a commitment from the AD to get them a quality coach.


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    I'm looking at this situation like voting: You don't vote, don't b^*ch....

    igeaux.mobi


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    An "interim" hire for a year would totally destroy recruiting. Interim should only be used on a very short term basis to finish a season or something similar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by playincajun View Post
    _ Why do the female basketball players deserve any less than the men when it comes to quality coaching. Its sad that we accept this. Turbine I agree if not hire a new coach for supposed financial or AD to busy reasons let an asst step up or interim. Rogers has proven he cannot produce so move on for the women who are committed to us they deserve no less than a commitment from the AD to get them a quality coach. _
    WHHHOA!!! Better not let you and my wife in the same discussion---Talk about mad---Basicly says the same thing as you!!!!Why in the hell should the WBB program be the one that obviously gets the bad coach and therefore not allowed to win---this is not good!!!!

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    Does anybody know if he took a cut in salary--At least this surely must have happened????????


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    Quote Originally Posted by playincajun View Post
    _ Why do the female basketball players deserve any less than the men when it comes to quality coaching. Its sad that we accept this. Turbine I agree if not hire a new coach for supposed financial or AD to busy reasons let an asst step up or interim. Rogers has proven he cannot produce so move on for the women who are committed to us they deserve no less than a commitment from the AD to get them a quality coach. _

    What you and I see as deserving has nothing to do with the ability to pay for it. Coach Marlin has already justified his hire by the increase of fans in the stands prior to his coming. Again even if we were able to get a coach for wbb who could approach what Middle has done over the years we would still not get a substantial increase in ticket revenue for the wbb program.

    You might see it as simple justice, I see it as priority. Which sports can help generate funds to offset the red ink. We currently have four. Football, mens basketball, baseball, and softball.

    Softball is the most successful sport at UL and still we measure the average gate in the hundreds not thousands. I have no doubt to get the kind of coach that we wished we actually deserved would require at least double the current salary, and also the upgrade the recruiting budget, along with an upgrade in assistants.

    No doubt we get a payback in mens basketball, baseball, football, and we really get two for the price of one in softball. I also have no doubt that the wbb program would take far more than a couple of successful seasons to simply be a little better at the gate.

    When you and I budget our families often fairness is not the highest priority. More so in an athletic department. The state legislature is bulldozing universities to protect the members little kingdoms. Athletic departments will take a bigger hit than academics.

    If you want to complain about fairness you would be far wiser to challenge your local reps and senators to do the right thing. Don't expect to get anything but a sympathetic ear and a phony I agree with you from them. You have to really hold their feet to the fire, they are all liars, every last one of them.

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