Zappi on Carbon Credits

[CajunProud]

_ Energy is the root cause of almost all conflicts now, and in the future.

We need to:

1) Divorce ourselves from foreign oil, ASAP.


2) Drill for every drop of American oil we can find. Expand our refining capability, big tme. It will take several years to get done, but we need to start now.

3) Convert as much of our energy needs today that we can to being derived from NUCLEAR POWER.

While doing the above, continue to research alternative sources of energy. _

Spot on. This is the ONLY way to go. To add a little to your last sentence, the research for alternative sources for energy should in NO WAY be paid for and/or subsidized by the government.

[NOCajun]

_ Energy is the root cause of almost all conflicts now, and in the future.

We need to:

1) Divorce ourselves from foreign oil, ASAP.


2) Drill for every drop of American oil we can find. Expand our refining capability, big tme. It will take several years to get done, but we need to start now.

3) Convert as much of our energy needs today that we can to being derived from NUCLEAR POWER.

While doing the above, continue to research alternative sources of energy. _

But, what about the lavender-striped, t-crested spotted amoeba? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT AFTER WE DO ALL THIS DRILLING!?!

[VObserver]

But, what about the lavender-striped, t-crested spotted amoeba? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT AFTER WE DO ALL THIS DRILLING!?!

we don't have to hunt them down to feed our starving families..

We can hunt then for sport.

igeaux.mobi

[SlappyCajun]

_ Spot on. This is the ONLY way to go. To add a little to your last sentence, the research for alternative sources for energy should in NO WAY be paid for and/or subsidized by the government. _

Agree with what has been said except for this point. I think it is completely arguable that it is in the nation's national security interests to spend money on research for alternative sources of energy.

Therefore, I don't mind paying taxes for it. However, in the meantime, we should not limit the energy resources that we have available to us. Namely oil.

Also, many of the alternative energy research would be done in public universities. So, the states are already subsidizing some of that research.

[SlappyCajun]

_ But, what about the lavender-striped, t-crested spotted amoeba? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT AFTER WE DO ALL THIS DRILLING!?! _

Just to play devil's advocate here, its a little more than just spotted amoeba. We came dangerously close to wiping out our fishing industry and coastal life during the last spill.

I freely admit that oil exploration and drilling is an inherently risky business. I also would proudly put the oil and gas companies safety records up against any other company in the world. However last time there was a mistake many Human suffered. Not some rare piece of bio diversity. So the stakes have changed slightly. IMO.

However, I do think we should be drilling as much as possible when warranted.

[CajunNation]

We came dangerously close to wiping out our fishing industry and coastal life during the last spill.

Let's not get carried away now.

I heard the amount of oil spilled from the Horizon in comparison to the amount of water in the Gulf was the equivalent of pouring a 16 ounce beer into a Superdome filled with water.

How could that possibly wipe out an entire fishing industry and all coastal life?

[CajunEXPRESS]

_ Let's not get carried away now.

I heard the amount of oil spilled from the Horizon in comparison to the amount of water in the Gulf was the equivalent of pouring a 16 ounce beer into a Superdome filled with water.

How could that possibly wipe out an entire fishing industry and all coastal life? _

Damage to the wetlands, and coastal areas. Highly toxic OIL IS. Let's admit it, the Feds were lazy, and BP has a history of being a bad coporate citizen. No doubt we still need to be drilling, and companies like BP need to be punished, but more to the point the heads of companies like BP should be punished, not some poor Brit hoping for a little dividend to subsidize their paltry government pension.

[SlappyCajun]

_ Let's not get carried away now.

I heard the amount of oil spilled from the Horizon in comparison to the amount of water in the Gulf was the equivalent of pouring a 16 ounce beer into a Superdome filled with water.

How could that possibly wipe out an entire fishing industry and all coastal life? _

The specific places where it hit in coastal LA, where many people could not go fishing and lost significant amounts of money is very different than pretending its only some insignificant amoeba that may be hurt. That is all I'm saying.

The repercussions of any accident, even though the odds of them are infinitesimally small are more serious than an amoeba was my point. Look at the fishing industry in Alaska after the Valdez. It is almost not existent now.

Also, while the spill compared to the whole of the gulf of Mexico may be small, you have to admit that at the point of the spill where the oil was most concentrated more serious damage may occur. Oil is not like beer into a Superdome full of water where it will peacefully dissolve into the mass. By its character oil stays together and wildlife in the way are affected. While, I appreciate wildlife for wildlife, I understand that many are not as sensitive to the plight of animals as humans, and can respect that, but in coastal LA, many human livelihoods are tied to wildlife, that was my only point.

[Lafitte the Pirate]

_ Energy is the root cause of almost all conflicts now, and in the future.

We need to:

1) Divorce ourselves from foreign oil, ASAP.


2) Drill for every drop of American oil we can find. Expand our refining capability, big tme. It will take several years to get done, but we need to start now.

3) Convert as much of our energy needs today that we can to being derived from NUCLEAR POWER.

While doing the above, continue to research alternative sources of energy. _

I got news for you. Look at the numbers. You will NEVER DIVORCE ourselves from foreign oil. It will take a long time to get there!!

[CajunNation]

I got news for you. Look at the numbers. You will NEVER DIVORCE ourselves from foreign oil. It will take a long time to get there!!

My point, Lafitte, is that ZERO use of foreign oil should be the goal, and we should be doing everything in our power to get there.

It will take decades, but we CAN and SHOULD do this.