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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    There is nobody around here worth 17 Billion.
    Pesos
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ The bottom line to all this talk is-----where would you rather be at the present time and projected into the future as an athletic department----I think any fair chooser would go with UL---Many times the advantages have been addressed on this board---NOW they are being articulated by inspired voices that have the ability to send the message and we also have the finished and on going projects that support the mission of this university and its Athletic Department!!!!! just the facts!!!! _
    boom-man! so lucid! so articulate! way to go, dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ OK... you think you've been in idle. Your school is nowhere near as large as UL... hasn't graduated nearly the students... and not that I don't like the little town of Ruston... but you seriously do not have anything that even resembles the amount of unutilized resources that we have. I hate to tell you... but this whole thing about Tech fans believing their ADs weren't making great decisions and doing right by Tech football... is a wad of nonsense. I know how they've solicited support, put money into the program, paid more for coaches... and although the results aren't that much more remarkable than UL... Tech has absolutely tried with a mountain more effort than the UL administration. You have no idea. Tech's president and AD have not tried to practically shut down your football program. "That" is what we've faced. You couldn't hope to ever have the academic endowment we've got. Cajun fans scattered all over Acadiana aren't inspired to donate to academics. We never solicited anyone... anyone for football. If a person stepped forward with a huge check in hand and said "this goes for this"... it was refused. Our 34 year president WOULD NOT allow UL to become or be known as an athletic minded university... if that required having any relationship beyond 10 old friends of his... donating money to athletics.

    I'm not arguing with you that neither Tech nor UL football impresses me. You simply have no idea how much our hands have been tied. I know for an absolute fact that has not been the case with Tech. Tech fired Bicknell... UL's old admin would have erected a statue of him and gave him a lifetime coach and AD position. You hired Dooley and managed to yank Schelfo out from under us. Don't kid yourself. Tech has paid a significant amount of attention to football. You've managed to take south Louisiana football athletes that for absolutely no good reason... other than highschool coaches down here say "Tech is more serious than UL about football". If that's a lie... then someone sure had them fooled. Right now... most highschool coaches in Acadiana with half a brain are saying "damn... UL is finally... finally... trying to be special in football".

    You guys can take it as puffery or whatever. Just sign the contract and let's settle the matter on the field and courts. Screw the puffery... screw the past... sign it... and let's rumble. _
    This is to all of Ray Authement's detractors:

    I am more than a little tired of people on this board blaming Ray Authement for everything wrong with this athletic department. Unless you have direct knowledge of conversations between Ray & these "persons with check in hand" or the actions he took for or against the department, then you are speaking from a point of ignorance. Since you are entitled to your opinion, you have the right to be wrong, as you are in reference to any harm Ray has done to this athletic department.

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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    The greatest college President ever!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    _ This is to all of Ray Authement's detractors:

    I am more than a little tired of people on this board blaming Ray Authement for everything wrong with this athletic department. Unless you have direct knowledge of conversations between Ray & these "persons with check in hand" or the actions he took for or against the department, then you are speaking from a point of ignorance. Since you are entitled to your opinion, you have the right to be wrong, as you are in reference to any harm Ray has done to this athletic department. _

    Why don't you go ask a group of businessmen who wanted to each pledge $100,000 each year which would total $1,000,000 give or take annually for the athletic program. Dr. A did not want to allow them to donate only to athletics and wanted this to go into a general fund for which they would have little or no say in how it was distributed. They backed off and gave nothing. One of those men met with Hud recently to which I am not sure what was said or decided. You are right, I haven't spoken to Dr. A about any of the athletics budget issues over the years as I really only came to have a general understanding of them over recent years for which he had one foot out the door. I can tell you that if you deny that there were issues with him and his beliefs of how to fund an athletics program, it is YOU sir who is being ignorant.

    I say this not because I am a detractor. I am far from it. That is because I know there are many reasons this program has not been given the resources to flourish and I'm sure tons of other reasons I have no idea about nor do many here. I know that Dr. A is well respected in the world of academia but the times we operate in have to make a distinction between the two and how they are funded. Athletics is forever more reliant on private dollars and there are people out there willing to offer it but they want to be able to have a word in where it is going and how it is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    _ This is to all of Ray Authement's detractors:

    I am more than a little tired of people on this board blaming Ray Authement for everything wrong with this athletic department. Unless you have direct knowledge of conversations between Ray & these "persons with check in hand" or the actions he took for or against the department, then you are speaking from a point of ignorance. Since you are entitled to your opinion, you have the right to be wrong, as you are in reference to any harm Ray has done to this athletic department. _
    Read Slam Dunked. That will change your opinion real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ Read Slam Dunked. That will change your opinion real quick. _
    I have. It didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ Why don't you go ask a group of businessmen who wanted to each pledge $100,000 each year which would total $1,000,000 give or take annually for the athletic program. Dr. A did not want to allow them to donate only to athletics and wanted this to go into a general fund for which they would have little or no say in how it was distributed. They backed off and gave nothing. One of those men met with Hud recently to which I am not sure what was said or decided. You are right, I haven't spoken to Dr. A about any of the athletics budget issues over the years as I really only came to have a general understanding of them over recent years for which he had one foot out the door. I can tell you that if you deny that there were issues with him and his beliefs of how to fund an athletics program, it is YOU sir who is being ignorant.

    I say this not because I am a detractor. I am far from it. That is because I know there are many reasons this program has not been given the resources to flourish and I'm sure tons of other reasons I have no idea about nor do many here. I know that Dr. A is well respected in the world of academia but the times we operate in have to make a distinction between the two and how they are funded. Athletics is forever more reliant on private dollars and there are people out there willing to offer it but they want to be able to have a word in where it is going and how it is used. _
    That was the sticking point. When it came to who to use it on, that's when it became a problem. The one issue Dr. Authement had with those who wanted to donate had to do with personnel. Several of these donors wanted input into the hiring and firing of athletic department employees. Would you want someone who had no knowledge of your day to day operations tell you how to run your business? I realize that was not the issue in every case, but now that we have the RCAF, which Dr A. did have a hand in helping to develop, that is no longer a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    _ I have. It didn't. _
    Look. I think Dr. A did I fine job on the academic side. However, with the exception of softball and maybe baseball. Every other athletic program and the University got worse under his watch. The fan base shrunk as well.

    With academics, good, perhaps excellent.

    With athletics, not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    _ This is to all of Ray Authement's detractors:

    I am more than a little tired of people on this board blaming Ray Authement for everything wrong with this athletic department. Unless you have direct knowledge of conversations between Ray & these "persons with check in hand" or the actions he took for or against the department, then you are speaking from a point of ignorance. Since you are entitled to your opinion, you have the right to be wrong, as you are in reference to any harm Ray has done to this athletic department. _
    Go talk to Brandon Stokely or Jake Delhomme and ask them why they have a chip on their shoulder? Ask about Nelson Stokely's recruiting budget at the end of his tenure. Ask about basketball taking a cut equal to the ncaa tourney money for the year they went which was not restored the following year.

    We do not need to speak to anyone, we have our own first hand knowledge from seeing the results for over 30 years. Coaches, players and administrators have come and gone but there have been 3 constants to UL athletics during that time: underperformance, lack of funding and Doc Authement.

    You have an equal right to your erroneous opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    The greatest college President ever!!
    Haaaaaaa! Never fails to make me laugh!!!


    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    I have. It didn't.
    Dr. Authement???? I didn't realize you were a poster on this site!


    igeaux.mobi

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