Star check

[KACajun]

_ Keep in mind, if we land both Broadway and Conner they would not be ranked as 3* or 4* stars this year. But clearly those two would give you two right from the start. _

T,

is the dead time over?

[Eagle]

yes

[CajunT]

_ T,

is the dead time over? _

January 5th is the last day of the Dead Period.

[Boomer]

_ No kidding. The past few weeks have been a real departure from where our program has spent the past decade it seems. So much more enthusiasm for offseason moves and recruiting. Granted, part of it is installing a new head coach and the staff changes that includes.

However, the caliber of kids who have interest in our program now is really amazing to see, and I am looking forward to buying season tickets this year for the first time ever. _

Now Is see why I am on this computer so much on T-Bine and Caj-T sites---Tanks to DA BOAT of you!!!!!

[Eagle]

_ January 5th is the last day of the Dead Period. _

That's what I get for talking w/o checking first.

[CajunRed]

Boomer...this is interesting.

I went to scout.com and checked two players we're going after...Montrell Carter and Trae Carter. One is a 3 star player and the other is not even rated at this time. But both have a comparable list of schools after them. And both lists include some BCS programs.

Just shows that "stars" don't always tell the right story.

I guess a huge part missing in this discussion is who decides how many stars and how the system works to determine how many stars-----another thing is whether some may have something to gain from it---say I am a "star giver" and I want to attract attention to some local kid----I have already mentioned that it was hard for me to tell the better players in high school and where they would project in college----but I have seen underrated kids come in a college program and out preform guys with higher ratings-----Besides God who gives us the stars?????

igeaux.mobi

[Boomer]

Mississippi Stars from Louisiana-----Ole Miss---2 3stars----Miss St---3 3stars----S Miss 2---2stars------If we can turn this thing around we maybe get a couple more of the 3s leaving state and now ya talkin'!!!!!

[zephyr]

_ I didn't get the impression that Coach Hud was going after players who are sometimes overlooked or not that known. He said he wants to put a fence around Louisiana and has already recruited some top athletes in Miss. He will compete against anyone for a player. Star athletes have never mattered to UL because we never got any, so it was easy to dismiss any rankings. UL has been at the bottom rung of recruiting forever and our records have reflected that. As we start to recruit better and higher ranked athletes and move up the recruiting ladder, this should be noted as a recruiting tool. This is obviously not an exact science as there are schools like Boise State who win with 2 & 3 star athletes and there are always unheralded high school players who become stars and 4 & 5 star players don't always pan out. Maybe there is little difference in 1 and 2 star athletes, but there is a reason the BCS schools that lead the recruiting lists with 3, 4 & 5 star athletes and are always in the top 25. It seems to alway be dismissed by losing teams, but is a big deal to teams that are successful. It is time for UL to step things up in recruiting and be recognized for our successes. _

Many of the players he is going after, especially from Ms are overlooked. We've been on this whole star thing. Many of those guys haven't been truly evaluated enough to have any type of rating system acknowledge them, or at least yet. By overlooked, I also mean guys like a Montrell Carter or Efrem Reed who will be small for their positions that they play at the next level. This often scares larger programs away or kids who have questionable academics going into their final months of high school. Many of the larger programs are already close to their limit of signees for this particular class and will not take a chance on a kid with questionable academics unless they perceive him to be worth the chance with what he can do on the field. This is one of the reasons you will see these programs signing more than 25 players during a year but some are always left out to dry. Bakari Hollier and Micah Eugene are two classic examples of overlooked. They were not heavily recruited all year. After both had superb seasons on a state championship team, Hud went over and offered both on the spot. LSU got wind of this and did the same thing shortly after and Eugene committed. You couldn't have better examples of overlooked right in our own backyard.

[Just1More]

I find it more than ironic that when we had no 3 star athletes on our list of commitments in the past, 80% of us defended the "stars don't really say much" campaign. Now that we've got a few 3 star athletes on our list, we are chest bumping about it. In reality, the star system still has the exact issues its always had. If we had all 3 star recruits... and we were jawing with one of our beloved instate past and current "rivals"... we'd point to our 3 star average and blow and go. I have the same feelings about the star system as I did 5 years ago. I see where it is valid and I see where it isn't... and it is not linear whatsoever from 2 to 5.

Once we start getting a higher star average (coupled with the fact we will compete with and win out over a more respected list of programs than in the past) I'm going to beat my chest over it. Am I going to expect that to culminate in more wins? You better believe it. The only stars I care about are in the shape of Ws.

If we start getting a lot of 3 star athletes... with a couple 4 star guys as well... I am going to pound the drums of the star system like a professional drum pounder. It is going to say positives and create even more positives for our program. The worst reality of the "nothing but 2 star recruit" issue with an FBS school is the lackluster stamp it puts on your program. My drum pounding will be more for removing the lackluster stamp than an admission that a targeted 2 star FBS football player is inferior to a 3 star athlete.

People have pointed out that Boise came to power with 2 and 3 star athletes. There is much more to that point. Boise will now recruit the exact level of talent, but by virtue of that talent stating it has interest from Boise State, a 2.6 star kid will miraculously become a 4.2 star kid. That is the big flaw of the star system. Regardless, I cannot wait for UL to become defenders and benefactors of the star system.

[zephyr]

_ I find it more than ironic that when we had no 3 star athletes on our list of commitments in the past, 80% of us defended the "stars don't really say much" campaign. Now that we've got a few 3 star athletes on our list, we are chest bumping about it. In reality, the star system still has the exact issues its always had. If we had all 3 star recruits... and we were jawing with one of our beloved instate past and current "rivals"... we'd point to our 3 star average and blow and go. I have the same feelings about the star system as I did 5 years ago. I see where it is valid and I see where it isn't... and it is not linear whatsoever from 2 to 5.

Once we start getting a higher star average (coupled with the fact we will compete with and win out over a more respected list of programs than in the past) I'm going to beat my chest over it. Am I going to expect that to culminate in more wins? You better believe it. The only stars I care about are in the shape of Ws.

If we start getting a lot of 3 star athletes... with a couple 4 star guys as well... I am going to pound the drums of the star system like a professional drum pounder. It is going to say positives and create even more positives for our program. The worst reality of the "nothing but 2 star recruit" issue with an FBS school is the lackluster stamp it puts on your program. My drum pounding will be more for removing the lackluster stamp than an admission that a targeted 2 star FBS football player is inferior to a 3 star athlete.

People have pointed out that Boise came to power with 2 and 3 star athletes. There is much more to that point. Boise will now recruit the exact level of talent, but by virtue of that talent stating it has interest from Boise State, a 2.6 star kid will miraculously become a 4.2 star kid. That is the big flaw of the star system. Regardless, I cannot wait for UL to become defenders and benefactors of the star system. _

Just go to Scout and check out TCU's commit list for 2011 or Nevada's list. There is no overwhelming amount of 3 or 4 star players on either. You'd expect different from TCU considering they could end up as the #2 rated team in the country after the championship game is concluded. It's about perception. QB smith who may commit to TCU in the future likely would have been a 2 or possibly 3 star athlete but because he committed to TCU, he ends up as a 4 star. The reverse can be said for the likes of UL. A 3 star kid recruited by USM, Ole Miss and Memphis may be listed as a 3 star player but if he commits here, he very well could be reduced to a 2 star rating by signing day. It works both ways.

[Boomer]

_ Just go to Scout and check out TCU's commit list for 2011 or Nevada's list. There is no overwhelming amount of 3 or 4 star players on either. You'd expect different from TCU considering they could end up as the #2 rated team in the country after the championship game is concluded. It's about perception. QB smith who may commit to TCU in the future likely would have been a 2 or possibly 3 star athlete but because he committed to TCU, he ends up as a 4 star. The reverse can be said for the likes of UL. A 3 star kid recruited by USM, Ole Miss and Memphis may be listed as a 3 star player but if he commits here, he very well could be reduced to a 2 star rating by signing day. It works both ways. _

WHY??????????????????

[Rebel02]

Why does it matter?

WHY??????????????????

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