Edenfield Scenario

[Phant]

The sad thing to me is that all of the haggling could have been concluded in a 48 hour time window instead of waiting until a bowl game was over.

But why were we even waiting?

Blakeny announced publicly that our offer would be matched, Edenfield announced he would stay if it was matched. Make a painfully high offer if he is your man, good for 24 hours, and move on. Worst case scenario, you added to Troy's overhead.

Why on earth would anyone uproot their family for the same money and job title, and why would we have ever expected them to do it?

I am glad we have no plans to sign up to play DI poker.

What date is our point of no return hit the panic button date for this hire?

[Go_UL]

What date is our point of no return hit the panic button date for this hire? _

At least a week before our first game

[CajunT]

_ The sad thing to me is that all of the haggling could have been concluded in a 48 hour time window instead of waiting until a bowl game was over.

But why were we even waiting?

Blakeny announced publicly that our offer would be matched, Edenfield announced he would stay if it was matched. Make a painfully high offer if he is your man, good for 24 hours, and move on. Worst case scenario, you added to Troy's overhead.

Why on earth would anyone uproot their family for the same money and job title, and why would we have ever expected them to do it?

I am glad we have no plans to sign up to play DI poker.

What date is our point of no return hit the panic button date for this hire? _

Well, first it wasn't for the same money, we offered him $150,000 and he wasn't making $100,000 at Troy. Hudspeth also offered him full authority to interview and pick his own offense staff. The lone exception is TE/RC Coach Reed Stringer. So it was not for the same money or athority that he had at Troy. Blakeney had to come up with something better just to keep him and apparently had approval from his AD to make the offer. Now Drew can only report what Edenfield was willing to tell him on the record and that isn't the whole story. I spoke to Hudspeth this morning and Edenfield was given a three year contract extension with an increase in salary and the title of "Head Coach in Waiting." Regardless of what has been reported, that came from Hudspeth.

Now here is the reality, while our administration is willing to pay coordinators $150,000, what programs can we actually out bid the SBC, MAC or WAC for an OC with experince? I could only think of two right now, ULM and Ark.ST. Hudspeth's best bet is to get a good OC from a winning program at the lower divisions. Let's remember, Edenfield came from North Alabama three years ago, he wasn't well known and I expect the next OC candidate will have a similar background. The two criteria are winning and a record of success in running that particular offense. While it's disappointing to lose out on Edenfield, we will get a good coach, but most of us may have never heard of the guy, just like Edenfield when he was at North Alabama.

[Phant]

Thanks for filling in the blanks. When I referred to same money, I meant same as his new offer, whatever it may be, vs their new offer. I also like the fact that the OC will have authority on staff selection, and I hope that remains a constant as it clearly communicates Hudspeth's confidence in the hire.

Sour grapes on my part, I enjoyed watching Troy dominate the New Orleans Bowl.

I will leave the subject with this comment, sometimes things happen for a reason.

_ Well, first it wasn't for the same money, we offered him $150,000 and he wasn't making $100,000 at Troy. Hudspeth also offered him full authority to interview and pick his own offense staff. The lone exception is TE/RC Coach Reed Stringer. So it was not for the same money or athority that he had at Troy. Blakeney had to come up with something better just to keep him and apparently had approval from his AD to make the offer. Now Drew can only report what Edenfield was willing to tell him on the record and that isn't the whole story. I spoke to Hudspeth this morning and Edenfield was given a three year contract extension with an increase in salary and the title of "Head Coach in Waiting." Regardless of what has been reported, that came from Hudspeth.

Now here is the reality, while our administration is willing to pay coordinators $150,000, what programs can we actually out bid the SBC, MAC or WAC for an OC with experince? I could only think of two right now, ULM and Ark.ST. Hudspeth's best bet is to get a good OC from a winning program at the lower divisions. Let's remember, Edenfield came from North Alabama three years ago, he wasn't well known and I expect the next OC candidate will have a similar background. The two criteria are winning and a record of success in running that particular offense. While it's disappointing to lose out on Edenfield, we will get a good coach, but most of us may have never heard of the guy, just like Edenfield when he was at North Alabama. _

[Just1More]

_ The sad thing to me is that all of the haggling could have been concluded in a 48 hour time window instead of waiting until a bowl game was over.

But why were we even waiting?

Blakeny announced publicly that our offer would be matched, Edenfield announced he would stay if it was matched. Make a painfully high offer if he is your man, good for 24 hours, and move on. Worst case scenario, you added to Troy's overhead.

Why on earth would anyone uproot their family for the same money and job title, and why would we have ever expected them to do it?

I am glad we have no plans to sign up to play DI poker.

What date is our point of no return hit the panic button date for this hire? _

Who's in a panic? What point of no return? Do you think Hudspeth didn't consider (or even expect) that he might not get Campbell/Edenfield? What makes you think he can't get another exceptionally qualified OC right now? Hudspeth has others that he probably might have debated asking first. He also very likely learned of great OC prospects' interest in the position as this process unfolded.

Our teenage girl slumber party forum are the only ones broken-hearted. Don't get caught up in this soap opera. I wish none of us were allowed to know who Hudspeth offered. This forum is too full of drama.

[CajunFan89]

_ Well, first it wasn't for the same money, we offered him $150,000 and he wasn't making $100,000 at Troy. Hudspeth also offered him full authority to interview and pick his own offense staff. The lone exception is TE/RC Coach Reed Stringer. So it was not for the same money or athority that he had at Troy. Blakeney had to come up with something better just to keep him and apparently had approval from his AD to make the offer. Now Drew can only report what Edenfield was willing to tell him on the record and that isn't the whole story. I spoke to Hudspeth this morning and Edenfield was given a three year contract extension with an increase in salary and the title of "Head Coach in Waiting." Regardless of what has been reported, that came from Hudspeth.

Now here is the reality, while our administration is willing to pay coordinators $150,000, what programs can we actually out bid the SBC, MAC or WAC for an OC with experince? I could only think of two right now, ULM and Ark.ST. Hudspeth's best bet is to get a good OC from a winning program at the lower divisions. Let's remember, Edenfield came from North Alabama three years ago, he wasn't well known and I expect the next OC candidate will have a similar background. The two criteria are winning and a record of success in running that particular offense. While it's disappointing to lose out on Edenfield, we will get a good coach, but most of us may have never heard of the guy, just like Edenfield when he was at North Alabama. _

may sound really ridiculous but what about a guy like Brian Jenkins for OC? like i said, sounds ridiculous but just a thought

[Parrott]

For what it's worth, T, Blakeney denies that Edenfield received the title "head coach-in-waiting." Shayne Wasden has been Troy's assistant head coach since 2008 and on the staff for seven years compared to Edenfield's three years.

Sometimes it's a he-said, he-said situation when getting the truth on such issues.


igeaux.mobi

[Just1More]

_ For what it's worth, T, Blakeney denies that Edenfield received the title "head coach-in-waiting." Shayne Wasden has been Troy's assistant head coach since 2008 and on the staff for seven years compared to Edenfield's three years.

Sometimes it's a he-said, he-said situation when getting the truth on such issues.


igeaux.mobi _

It had nothing to do with anything but a real twangy female accent saying,

"Kenny, its justa seemin lak tha kidzibee bedder off astayin here and ya know ya mama ain't a goin da lak drivin all tha ways down ta lweezianer ta watchya coach anywayz. Wezedbee bedder off takin tha money Troy is a offerin and stick ta tha neck atha woods warz wer frum anywayz. A can't be a eatin spicy food anywayz and I ain't a eatin them thar cridders them thar cajun folk eats anywayz. Anywayz, Coach Larry's ben a ril ril good ta us and him's ____ry lak us. I lak ol Hud, but weed be lak a nat crawler done jump'd hisself inta a barrel a hungry sun perch up er in lweezianer. Them cajuns er down rat crazy folk anywayz."

Something similar to that...

[Damon]

Our teenage girl slumber party forum are the only ones broken-hearted. Don't get caught up in this soap opera. I wish none of us were allowed to know who Hudspeth offered. This forum is too full of drama. _

This 1000 times.

[ULGrad@HOU]

_ Who's in a panic? What point of no return? Do you think Hudspeth didn't consider (or even expect) that he might not get Campbell/Edenfield? What makes you think he can't get another exceptionally qualified OC right now? Hudspeth has others that he probably might have debated asking first. He also very likely learned of great OC prospects' interest in the position as this process unfolded.

Our teenage girl slumber party forum are the only ones broken-hearted. Don't get caught up in this soap opera. I wish none of us were allowed to know who Hudspeth offered. This forum is too full of drama. _

Really, we don't know what Coach Hud is thinking right now, but it would be interesting to know.

[Phant]

_ Who's in a panic? What point of no return?

Please re-read my post, it was a question. I asked at what point will we be in a panic, when is our point of no return? Maybe there is no such point, but if there is one, I am certainly not saying it has arrived.

It probably would be better if no news or updates occurred at all as opposed to small tidbits, but again, I am not providing updates.

Regardless, I stand by my comment. I think it would have been prudent to execute the negotiation in a more timely manner. No it's not the end of the world, the sky is not falling, but the reality is he was never ours for the taking. I imagine Coach Hudspeth would even agree that it took a little longer than he would have liked to resolve the matter.

[moorecajun]

_ It had nothing to do with anything but a real twangy female accent saying,

"Kenny, its justa seemin lak tha kidzibee bedder off astayin here and ya know ya mama ain't a goin da lak drivin all tha ways down ta lweezianer ta watchya coach anywayz. Wezedbee bedder off takin tha money Troy is a offerin and stick ta tha neck atha woods warz wer frum anywayz. A can't be a eatin spicy food anywayz and I ain't a eatin them thar cridders them thar cajun folk eats anywayz. Anywayz, Coach Larry's ben a ril ril good ta us and him's ____ry lak us. I lak ol Hud, but weed be lak a nat crawler done jump'd hisself inta a barrel a hungry sun perch up er in lweezianer. Them cajuns er down rat crazy folk anywayz."

Something similar to that... _

Me thinks this is the the hidden link.