Football Conference Rankings 2010-2011

[RaginDave]

_ Close. Some may say that NYC is bigger. _

My assumption is that he is considering Rutgers as NYC's BCS school. They are less then an hour apart and in NYC terms that is a suburb.

[shof]

_ WAC does have a bright spot with the addition of these three schools even before any football games are played.

UT-SA- hired Larry Coker who won a recent national title pretty recently, San Antonio is the largest U.S. city without a Football Bowl Subdivision football program, has over 30,000 students enrolled, they will have the largest media market of any school in the WAC, and the largest stadium in the conference, the Alamodome.

Texas State-has over 32,000 students enrolled, Austin media area, may hire Dennis Franchione or another big name.

Montana- The Grizzlies playoff streak of 17 in a row from 1993-2009 is a record at the I-AA level, now known as the NCAA Division I Championship Subdivision. The WAC will only make them more attractive playing in the FBS. _

OK, shame on me for not reading the entire thread before commenting here; but I just couldn't wait. For starters, I live in San Antonio; so I certainly have some perspective on what UTSA, and even for that matter Texas State can do for the WAC. And I've been here for the last 16 years. My daughter and son-in-law are both UTSA grads. The head basketball coach is a personal friend of mine. I also met Larry Coker at an alumni function several weeks ago and had a good time visiting with him - - good guy! So with that in mind let me say - - NEITHER of these schools are going to be the WAC's "bright spot"! They have both had enrollment well above UL for a number of years, and are still growing. Both have the ability to use student fees to significantly increase their athletic budget. UTSA will get some initial "woo hoo - we have football" excitement when it starts. I plan on attending too; because my kids and I all like football. I hope it works; but if support of other athletics is any indicator - it will wear off and be just like any other mid-major - - wanting! I watched UTSA play San Jose St recently - "big preview" of playing the WAC in basketball. Maybe, MAYBE, 500 in attendance! This is a UT and aTm town - - period! You think Lafayette is an LSU town - - visit here! As for Texas State; even more of an issue when you realize UT is just 30 miles up the road. They have had football for many, many years; and only get 12K into their stadium. They are making progress and expanding, and hopefully the support will increase; but don't think for a minute they are the WAC's bright spot either. Look, I want them to succeed, and expect that some success will come their way; but the WAC as we know it is dying and will DEFINITELY be below the Belt in a very short time. You can only take so many FCS teams (or teams that have NEVER played a down of football) and expect that to make the conference better. THAT is where the WAC is today.

Get better and in the process make the Belt better! We have way more upside than the WAC right now.

OK, time for my BP meds!

[BayouTeche]

Even with the BCS pay-day, the WAC paid the following amounts to member schools for the 2007-08 fiscal year:
1. Hawaii $4,922,062
2. Boise State $1,672,056
3. Nevada $1,380,377
4. Fresno State $1,308,608
5. San Jose State $971,747
6. Louisiana Tech $855,015
7. Utah State $800,247
8. Idaho $800,247
9. New Mexico St. 432,197 (although they paid $40k x 8 to each school to host the B-ball tourney)

The Western Athletic Conference and ESPN have agreed to a seven-year contract extension that will give the network multi-platform rights through the 2016-17 academic year.

Idaho benfited tremendously from WAC TV revenue. My point being, the new teams joining the WAC will make a whole lot more money and besides the ESPN contract makes it more attractive for the exposure. Bosie ST. benefited big time from this.

[CajunFan89]

_ Even with the BCS pay-day, the WAC paid the following amounts to member schools for the 2007-08 fiscal year:
1. Hawaii $4,922,062
2. Boise State $1,672,056
3. Nevada $1,380,377
4. Fresno State $1,308,608
5. San Jose State $971,747
6. Louisiana Tech $855,015
7. Utah State $800,247
8. Idaho $800,247
9. New Mexico St. 432,197 (although they paid $40k x 8 to each school to host the B-ball tourney)

The Western Athletic Conference and ESPN have agreed to a seven-year contract extension that will give the network multi-platform rights through the 2016-17 academic year.

Idaho benfited tremendously from WAC TV revenue. My point being, the new teams joining the WAC will make a whole lot more money and besides the ESPN contract makes it more attractive for the exposure. Bosie ST. benefited big time from this. _

that was in a WAC with Boise St. Nevada, and Fresno St. do you honestly think that ESPN will still be hanging around on the shell of a conference that is the WAC in 2 years or would they much rather move that money somewhere else.

[The Source]

_ Even with the BCS pay-day, the WAC paid the following amounts to member schools for the 2007-08 fiscal year:
1. Hawaii $4,922,062
2. Boise State $1,672,056
3. Nevada $1,380,377
4. Fresno State $1,308,608
5. San Jose State $971,747
6. Louisiana Tech $855,015
7. Utah State $800,247
8. Idaho $800,247
9. New Mexico St. 432,197 (although they paid $40k x 8 to each school to host the B-ball tourney)

The Western Athletic Conference and ESPN have agreed to a seven-year contract extension that will give the network multi-platform rights through the 2016-17 academic year.

Idaho benfited tremendously from WAC TV revenue. My point being, the new teams joining the WAC will make a whole lot more money and besides the ESPN contract makes it more attractive for the exposure. Bosie ST. benefited big time from this. _

Dude the top 4 on your list that is 3 years old are gone, the WAC is dead, just like your ignorant rhetoric.

[CajunRed]

_ Even with the BCS pay-day, the WAC paid the following amounts to member schools for the 2007-08 fiscal year:
1. Hawaii $4,922,062
2. Boise State $1,672,056
3. Nevada $1,380,377
4. Fresno State $1,308,608
5. San Jose State $971,747
6. Louisiana Tech $855,015
7. Utah State $800,247
8. Idaho $800,247
9. New Mexico St. 432,197 (although they paid $40k x 8 to each school to host the B-ball tourney)

The Western Athletic Conference and ESPN have agreed to a seven-year contract extension that will give the network multi-platform rights through the 2016-17 academic year.

Idaho benfited tremendously from WAC TV revenue. My point being, the new teams joining the WAC will make a whole lot more money and besides the ESPN contract makes it more attractive for the exposure. Bosie ST. benefited big time from this. _

You need to change the word "have"... as in "have agreed"... to "had"... which is what the discussion with ESPN will be from now moving forward. Yes, they "had" agreed to that contract you mentioned... but that was with a conference of teams that no longer exists. That will not happen.

[Just1More]

Turbine,

This BayouTeche character has no game but has forum diarrhea that seems to have no end. Is there any chance you can shove a facilitator suppository up his username ass and shut him up?

J1M

PS I know you like "polls". Please take a poll of people that will pay to limit him to one post per week. This may be the greatest fund-raising event in the history of RaginPagin.

[BayouTeche]

_ Turbine,

This BayouTeche character has no game but has forum diarrhea that seems to have no end. Is there any chance you can shove a facilitator suppository up his username ass and shut him up?

PS I know you like "polls". Please take a poll of people that will pay to limit him to one post per week. This may be the greatest fund-raising event in the history of RaginPagin. _

The WAC signed a new seven year contract with ESPN Networks with increases in the number of games available for ESPN/ESPN2 to select, plus games available for ESPNU. The contract starts with the 2010-11 athletic year and includes increased exposure for other sports
I guess you don't know that the contract hasd been signed. ESPN is fully aware that Boise St. and others are moving on. What I am trying to say is the new schools will benfit from the ESPN contract. The contract with the Sunbelt is through next year and have have to be reaccessed. Lets see if ESPN will sign a long term deal like they did with the WAC. Remember, ESPN made Boise St. what it is today from the exposure. I do what a signed contract means , ESPN is not backing out of the signed deal with the WAC.

[AstroCajun]

_ The WAC signed a new seven year contract with ESPN Networks with increases in the number of games available for ESPN/ESPN2 to select, plus games available for ESPNU. The contract starts with the 2010-11 athletic year and includes increased exposure for other sports
I guess you don't know that the contract hasd been signed. ESPN is fully aware that Boise St. and others are moving on. What I am trying to say is the new schools will benfit from the ESPN contract. The contract with the Sunbelt is through next year and have have to be reaccessed. Lets see if ESPN will sign a long term deal like they did with the WAC. Remember, ESPN made Boise St. what it is today from the exposure. I do what a signed contract means , ESPN is not backing out of the signed deal with the WAC. _

The deal was signed in 2008 and I wouldn't be surprised if ESPN has an out clause in it because it knew that the top half of the conference was too big for the WAC britches.

There's absolutely no way that ESPN will honor the deal once BSU, FSU, Nevada and Hawaii are gone.

[SlappyCajun]

_ The WAC signed a new seven year contract with ESPN Networks with increases in the number of games available for ESPN/ESPN2 to select, plus games available for ESPNU. The contract starts with the 2010-11 athletic year and includes increased exposure for other sports
I guess you don't know that the contract hasd been signed. ESPN is fully aware that Boise St. and others are moving on. What I am trying to say is the new schools will benfit from the ESPN contract. The contract with the Sunbelt is through next year and have have to be reaccessed. Lets see if ESPN will sign a long term deal like they did with the WAC. Remember, ESPN made Boise St. what it is today from the exposure. I do what a signed contract means , ESPN is not backing out of the signed deal with the WAC. _

Is this the contract you are referring to?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3569332

The one signed in September of 2008. Here is the deal brother. When those other teams leave. The WAC will technically be in breach of that contract, because they will not be able to provide the same teams to ESPN. Therefore, the contract will simply dissolve. So, no the new teams will not benefit from the contract.

The conference is just a shell for the schools. ESPN signed that contract for the Bosie, Reno, Fresno, Hawaii, etc. Not Utah St. vs. San Jose State. Once the conference dismantles, the TV contract will be no more.