2010 Football Coaching Candidates

[Boomer]

_ What about Brad Boyd? _

Wrong sport and wrong SEX---I think that he will apply for the girl's position if they fire our present coach---BB has coached AAU girls with success for the last few years I think!!!! Congrats to the Freekin' Saders for beating my Jays!!! I think W Monroe is the end of the line for the Jays this week---but who knows????

[CajunHood]

_ Yes, these guys were great candidates, but our problem is holding on to them too long. Give them 3 years to show an improvement, and obtain a winning record. If it's not obvious that the team is much improved, then move on. It's not rocket science, but it is amazing, when a good coach takes over a program, the team plays and competes at a higher level then before. It will be obvious when you win games you shouldn't and don't lose to teams like WK. _

This is the real answer, the head coach is a leader and that is important, but we need a purse that will attract top quality assistants. I agree, no position coaches, no asst HC, no special teams coord, we need a proven HC, or a top flight Coordinator, who controls his WHOLE side of the ball.

Then we need to hire asst's that have experience and contacts, we don't need these punks that Bustle hires, we need first class assts!!!! Go look at Coach Stokley's staffs(only because I am not real familiar with Augie's staff, and Sam wasn't around that long) his first staff every one of those coaches went on to bigger and better things because he lost them to larger salaries(ask those that were here, they loved it here but other schools were doubling their salaries) then he has to hire younger coaches for the pay that he can offer, these younger assistants don't have the contacts, the eye for talent, or the tips and tricks to teach the position players how to adapt, nor the experience of how to handle wins or losses. We need to pay our HC at least $600K, and each coordinator $250K - $300K, then the rest of your coaches should be lining up for positions that pay from $100K on the low end to $200K or more for the better positions.

The problem is all about money - PERIOD!!! It's what attracts coaches, because after all there are only 2 kinds of college coaches, the ones who are fired and the ones who will be fired.

[CajunHood]

_ Alright I will bite. I do believe that Cook may be a good fit for the program, but I do not feel that it is in the Head Coaches role. Reading this thread over and over again, I also feel that Orgeron may be a great step in the right direction if he would be interested in the position. I think with the ties that Ed has to the state and the relationships that he has with the high school coaches in the area, I am sure that he would be able to put a great staff together to help this team get to a bowl game. I also know first hand that Cook is not the only area high school coach that would be very interested in a position on the Cajuns coaching staff, just seem that he was never even given a call or second thought when Bustle was looking for assistants. He is the only coach on Cooks staff that is in the LHSAA Hall of Fame. I guess Bustle got what was coming to him. _

Ed Oregeon is not a good fit. PERIOD AND END OF SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He couldn't win at Ole Miss with all that money..........we have no money, how will he win here? Are you guys kidding me? Get off the Ed Oregeron bandwagon, it would be the 2nd worst hire in the programs history...................come on guys!!!!!!!

Jim Leavitt
Jeff Bower
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino
Brent Venebles
Kirby Smart
David Culley

These are the names we need to attack............after these names, we go after some flash, the guy just fired at Colorado might even be a good choice, he can recruit and he can win at a small school.................

[Hammer58]

_ Wrong sport and wrong SEX---I think that he will apply for the girl's position if they fire our present coach---BB has coached AAU girls with success for the last few years I think!!!! Congrats to the Freekin' Saders for beating my Jays!!! I think W Monroe is the end of the line for the Jays this week---but who knows???? _

Boomer, put down the Beast and notice all the little smiley faces. It was a joke.

[Phant]

1) It's spelled Orgeron.
2) Read my post.
3) Believe my post.
4) Only lies have to make sense, the truth has no such obligation.
5) Could Nick Saban win at Alabama if the "money gang" had pulled their support for him and decided to run him off prior to the first game he coached there?

Personally, I am not on anyone's bandwagon, but I do agree that from a logical perspective, after considering the various alternatives, if UL can afford him he may be the best choice for several reasons.

_ Ed Oregeon is not a good fit. He couldn't win at Ole Miss with all that money..........we have no money, how will he win here? Are you guys kidding me? Get off the Ed Oregeron bandwagon, it would be the 2nd worst hire in the programs history...................come on guys!!!!!!!

[VObserver]

If Ogeron's asking price is $1,000,000 for him AND staff, Let's hire him now. The Current budget for football staff [NOT counting Bustle] is around $900,000; I suspect our salary budget for total staff next year will be in the neighborhood of $1,400,000.

[rhineaux]

I've seen a couple people mention Kirby Smart, but if I remember correctly, didn't he interview for the Texas Tech job last year? Nevermind, I just found something that said he was to interview, but it was an incorrect rumor. I was going to say that I would put him a few years ahead of Holgorson, in that he probably isn't far from a bigger job with a bigger check. Maybe he's about equal to Holgorson, though.

As for Ed Orgeron...I'm not sure what to think about that guy. Anyone can say that his reputation is built on propaganda and that he's never been caught doing anything wrong and whatever else. Maybe that's correct and maybe it's not. I do know that Nick Saban doesn't have that sort of reputation, and the same goes for many other coaches who have opponents that would benefit from their name being soiled. One thing that is for certain is that if he is mostly clean, aside from a few little "T-Shirt" violations here or there, as a result of ignorance of the rules, that's fine. But, big schools have enough resources and enough people to make "T-Shirt" violations go away and UL doesn't. It's all about risk & reward. Getting a guy like EO in here could reap many benefits. However, whether or not his reputation is a result of propaganda or fact, there is some added risk. And, his record is what it is. Worst case, he is a bad coach. If he wasn't given a fair shake by the school/boosters, then best case is that he's an unknown as a HC. Either way, this adds more risk. At this point in its history, I'm not sure that what UL needs is a lot of risk. Then again, nothing is certain...EO could come in and run a clean program and bring great success, just like the "sure thing" hire could come in and run up a couple violations while sucking on the field.

The other thing with EO, outside of the risk/reward aspect, is whether or not the rumors of him wanting the job are true. Normally I wouldn't put much stock into that, but being as it came about last year and his interest was verified, or at least the fact that there was a conversation, was verified; I suppose that there is something to this. My problem with this is WHY does he want the job? Does he view UL as a good place to prove himself as an HC, while being near family, because he knows that another major HC job isn't coming his way anytime soon? Or, is he tired of being a #2 guy and wants to settle down somewhere? If he is closer to the second reason than the first, then I would definitely tell him thanks, but no thanks. To me, the last thing we need is a guy who wants this job. Like we've said over and over again, we want a guy that wants to come here and leave in a few years. UL doesn't need a guy who wants to come here without having another destination in his plans. I want the Ath Dept to find a guy that they want, that may not really be interested at first...a guy that they have to sell the school to...a guy that probably doesn't see UL as a place that he wants to be at for very long (but may really like once he's here for a couple years). So, before I'd really want to consider EO, I'd want to know IF he really wants this job as much as some people says he does, and WHY he wants it.

[rgamers]

I wonder if the thinking may be to offer the AD/Head Coach position to the next football coach to help maximize the pay scale like Tech did for Dooley?

[Phant]

I do know that Nick Saban doesn't have that sort of reputation, and the same goes for many other coaches who have opponents that would benefit from their name being soiled.

My reference to Saban was related to an ability to win at a program with money as opposed to Orgeron's perceived inability to do so. Orgeron was being run out of town on a rail before he coached his first game at Ole Miss. The point I was trying to make was that even the best of coaches would find it nearly impossible to succeed in that environment.

[Boomer]

_ Boomer, put down the Beast and notice all the little smiley faces. It was a joke. _

Caught it as I read it---thought I would add a lil info to the board

[shof]

Guess I'm to the point of wanting someone that will create a buzz for the program. Someone that can give recruits a desire to want to come here versus some other mid major. Regardless of who we get, we aren't going to steal recruits away from big BCS programs (LSU in particular) but we might be able to beat out lower level BCS/AQ teams and other regional mids (like Tech, USM, etc). That alone would give us a great boost in the SBC. We aren't far from being good now talent wise. So hopefully this new HC can get some frest talent and bring along a couple of up and coming coordinators to get the most out of our guys.

As bad is it feels right now, the right hire can reenergize our fan base and program. Hope we get this right!

[CajunT]

_ Guess I'm to the point of wanting someone that will create a buzz for the program. Someone that can give recruits a desire to want to come here versus some other mid major. Regardless of who we get, we aren't going to steal recruits away from big BCS programs (LSU in particular) but we might be able to beat out lower level BCS/AQ teams and other regional mids (like Tech, USM, etc). That alone would give us a great boost in the SBC. We aren't far from being good now talent wise. So hopefully this new HC can get some frest talent and bring along a couple of up and coming coordinators to get the most out of our guys.

As bad is it feels right now, the right hire can reenergize our fan base and program. Hope we get this right! _

"frest talent "

Hey Elmer, English Please! LOL!!!