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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    _ I think the number is retired as well. But here is something to think about. Schools handle retired numbers/jerseys differently. Indeed, we handle them differently between sports here.

    It is possible that Sam Houston had retired jerseys.

    The one thing that is interesting is that it can be a recruiting tool.

    1) Some kids like to where a certain number.
    2) Sometimes you can impress a kid by telling him that you want him to wear the same number as another good player. _
    FWIW, I would prefer that UL develop a "Ring of Honor" or something similar to that to honor great players in the future, instead of actually retiring numbers. But since the University decided to retire those numbers, then IMHO they should remain retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchwarmer View Post
    _ I thought Bo Lamar's number was retired but Mbamalu was wearing it last night. What is the deal? _
    For UL, that's the equivalent of the Yankees re-issuing the numbers worn by Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Whitey Ford.

    I agree with the comment that you shouldn't retire numbers in football because there are too many players on a football team. Instead you ought to have a ring of honor.

    The memory of the Bo Lamar days is the reason why basketball is so important to many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    _ For UL, that's the equivalent of the Yankees re-issuing the numbers worn by Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Whitey Ford.

    I agree with the comment that you shouldn't retire numbers in football because there are too many players on a football team. Instead you ought to have a ring of honor.

    The memory of the Bo Lamar days is the reason why basketball is so important to many people. _

    the Yankees really aren't the best example since they have multiple players with the numbers 1-9 that have had there number retired...

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    _ the Yankees really aren't the best example since they have multiple players with the numbers 1-9 that have had there number retired... _
    The only duplicate is #8, retired for Yogi and Bill Dickey

    #1 Billy Martin
    #2 Not retired...will be by Derek Jeter
    #3 Babe Ruth
    #4 Lou Gehrig
    #5 Joe Dimaggio
    #6 Still available...could be retired for Joe Torre
    #7 Mickey
    #8 Yogi/Dickey
    #9 Don't think it's retired


    Now, back to the #10 for UL.

    Several years ago,t he University decided to set a policy for retired jerseys. There was a criteria under which jerseys could be retired in the future (I don't remember exactly what it is....) and they also came out with a policy concerning reissue. A jersey that is retired puts the number on hiatus for 20 years, after which time it can be reissued.

    Wont' go into whether that's right or wrong....that's for opinions to form. Just wanted you to know what the policy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    _ The only duplicate is #8, retired for Yogi and Bill Dickey

    #1 Billy Martin
    #2 Not retired...will be by Derek Jeter
    #3 Babe Ruth
    #4 Lou Gehrig
    #5 Joe Dimaggio
    #6 Still available...could be retired for Joe Torre
    #7 Mickey
    #8 Yogi/Dickey
    #9 Don't think it's retired


    Now, back to the #10 for UL.

    Several years ago,t he University decided to set a policy for retired jerseys. There was a criteria under which jerseys could be retired in the future (I don't remember exactly what it is....) and they also came out with a policy concerning reissue. A jersey that is retired puts the number on hiatus for 20 years, after which time it can be reissued.

    Wont' go into whether that's right or wrong....that's for opinions to form. Just wanted you to know what the policy is. _
    #9 Roger Maris
    #16 Whitey Ford
    #23 Don Mattingly
    #37 Casey Stengel
    #44 Reggie Jackson
    #49 Ron Guidry

    The Ring of Honor concept is really the way the numbers should be handled, with the name of the immortal player beside the number at your field, court, etc., with the number being used. The NFL handles it best in my opinion.

    Having said that, still nobody for the New York Jets is going to wear #12, and nobody for the Denver Broncos is going to wear #7 again.

    Bo Lamar is our Joe Namath because he put the basketball program on the map. When I signed out of my high school in California and I told the PE coach (who was also the basketball coach) I was moving to Lafayette, Louisiana, he replied, "Southwestern Louisiana, 13th ranked basketball team in the nation."

    Andrew Toney is our John Elway. He put the basketball program back on the map.

    I guess before someone gets married he ought to check with the spouse-elect to make sure he/she doesn't believe forever means 20 years.

    For Bo Lamar, Payton Townsend, and Andrew Toney, it was an ex-post facto 20 years.

    Makes absolutely no sense. I was there for the end of the Bo Lamar era and the idea of doing this would have never entered anybody's mind. This is a loose ball foul, or should I say loose bowel foul. Sounds like good recruiting material if I were a rival school! "When we retire our numbers, they STAY retired!!! At USL they only stay retired for 20 years."

    Checking in to the game for the Tar Heels, Number 23.........Drum roll please.......Art Brown... (toilet flush)

    Mais, we really USL'd this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    For Bo Lamar, Payton Townsend, and Andrew Toney, it was an ex-post facto 20 years.
    Just for the sake of accuracy, the three retired numbers/jerseys for UL Basketball are:
    #10 - Bo Lamar
    #14 - Marvin Winkler
    #24 - Andrew Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie35 View Post
    _ Just for the sake of accuracy, the three retired numbers/jerseys for UL Basketball are:
    #10 - Bo Lamar
    #14 - Marvin Winkler
    #24 - Andrew Tony _

    While we are on retired numbers, how did Damon Mason get his number retired. His bio is not impressive enough to warrant retirement, IMO. Merely being a first team all conference player one year, having the 3rd highest, single-season number of tackles in one year of any UL player (who was #1 & #2) and being a national Defensive Player of the Week for one outstanding game vs. Texas A&M does not appear to warrant having a number retired. It might put him in the Hall of Fame, but a retired number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    _ , having the 3rd highest, single-season number of tackles in one year of any UL player (who was #1 & #2)
    #1 would be Frank Barkley and #2 may also be him. Yep, #9 on the wall still mystifies me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    _ While we are on retired numbers, how did Damon Mason get his number retired. His bio is not impressive enough to warrant retirement, IMO. Merely being a first team all conference player one year, having the 3rd highest, single-season number of tackles in one year of any UL player (who was #1 & #2) and being a national Defensive Player of the Week for one outstanding game vs. Texas A&M does not appear to warrant having a number retired. It might put him in the Hall of Fame, but a retired number? _
    Damon Mason jersey being retired also seems a little much to me also, but I must say he is my all time favorite UL defensive player. Small but back it up and let the other team know it. He did make 3rd team all American I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeauCajun View Post
    _ #1 would be Frank Barkley and #2 may also be him. Yep, #9 on the wall still mystifies me. _
    I honestly think Stokley was trying to fill the void of tradition in recent memory with the retired numbers in hopes of lighting a fire and creating an aura of pride and a following. It's my guess that Stokley is responsible for it.

    But I really see an ethical problem with the retired number decision. You don't tell Bo Lamar 30 years after the fact that your number or jersey (what honoree wouldn't think they were one in the same) isn't retired any more because later on we decided after that the honor would be limited to 20 years.

    I also see a selfish reason to honor the retired number. If the UL basketball program reaches the status of the Bo Lamar days again you want to say that UL basketball excellence has existed for decades.

    You just can't do this to the select few larger than life immortals who put your school on the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    _ I honestly think Stokley was trying to fill the void of tradition in recent memory with the retired numbers in hopes of lighting a fire and creating an aura of pride and a following. It's my guess that Stokley is responsible for it.

    But I really see an ethical problem with the retired number decision. You don't tell Bo Lamar 30 years after the fact that your number or jersey (what honoree wouldn't think they were one in the same) isn't retired any more because later on we decided after that the honor would be limited to 20 years.

    I also see a selfish reason to honor the retired number. If the UL basketball program reaches the status of the Bo Lamar days again you want to say that UL basketball excellence has existed for decades.

    You just can't do this to the select few larger than life immortals who put your school on the map. _
    How do any of you know if Bo Lamar himself blessed off on the idea of #10 being used again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    How do any of you know if Bo Lamar himself blessed off on the idea of #10 being used again?
    Matters not!

    Bo couldn't ask to have his # retired, he can't demand having it unretired.

    That is what makes it an honor,
    igeaux.mobi

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