Louisiana's Push for Tier One status

[MetryCajun]

What part?

[CajunAmos]

Saw a posting about the new Carnegie Classifications and we appear to be "R2: Doctoral Universities - Higher Research Activity" which I think we were in the last rating in 2014, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

[cajun_lannister]

Saw a posting about the new Carnegie Classifications and we appear to be "R2: Doctoral Universities - Higher Research Activity" which I think we were in the last rating in 2014, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

The next assessment is 2020

[cajun4life]

The next assessment is 2020

And we will hear again how we are almost there.

[CajunAmos]

The next assessment is 2020

It actually looks like they changed criteria and reporting periods. I now looks like they are updating every three years instead of five. It also looks like it's now being operated by Indiana University.

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/index.php

[Cajunfanatico]

Being a "top tier" G5 program is very doable. I just question whether a consortium made up of thirty G5 schools that are scattered from coast to coast is at all feasible.

Explain the downside of working to achieve it.

[cajun_lannister]

And we will hear again how we are almost there.

Hearing we will be there Its Priority #1 for Tjoe

[Cajunfanatico]

Don't kid yourself. Napier is just like every other up and coming coach. His focus is on using any "contacts" he has to promote HIMSELF and his ability to make the move up to a P5 institution. That doesn't make him a bad guy, it's just the way things work in this business. In fact, any time you hear any coach at the G5 level talk about wanting to "build the program", it should insult your intelligence. It's what they've got to say at press conferences and such, but there isn't a lick of sincerity in it.

I think you're dead wrong here. Napier can have all the contacts in the world but if he does a crappy job here, he's not going to move on to another higher-rated gig.....not soon, and not from here anyway. His best way forward is to do what? It's to "build the program" to the point that it gets national attention and he gets hired away at a higher level.

I'm fine with that. It's what we want, it's what he wants. Win-win.

[CajunVic]

The MORE research that is done before posting on this subject, the BETTER the chances are that we will be TIER 1 on the next assessment. RESEARCH AWAY people.

[RaginKid]

Conflating tier1 and Carnegie 1 is very different
Tier 1 SREB = 100 phds for min 3 yrs produced from
at least min total 10 phd programs. No one phd program
Can produce 50%.
Southern Regional Education Board is a consortium of southern states public
Universities. Auburn and Ala as exp. r tier 1 SREB institutions but possibly not Carnegie R1


Carnegie’s R1 is considered a Very High research institution
That produces a min 100 mil $ research per yr approved by the NSF
And the institution also produces at least 100 phds per yr.

I attended my son's New Student Orientation at University of Houston today, and didn't realize that there were only 115 Tier One universities in the USA. Here are some schools I found interesting that are NOT Tier One:

Auburn University
Baylor University
Mississippi State University
Oklahoma State University
Rutgers University
Texas Christian University
University of Alabama
Wake Forest University

I am a HUGE fan of sports, but outside of Wake Forest, I don't understand how the rest of these schools don't spend the money on academics to get to Tier 1. My lack of understanding is based upon how much money is spent on athletics. I understand that athletics is either self sufficient or close to, at most of these institutions, but the university leadership should be ashamed.

[HoustonCajun]

Facilities are AAC level. Training facility, Baseball and basketball are BIG12 level.
Commitment to the stadium is going to be huge in the next year to 18 months.

There’s a reason Napier stayed. There’s a reason TJoe is signing off on these big ticket items. There’s a reason Maggard didn’t bolt for UCF. There’s a reason why OLOL and LHC are cutting checks.

I fully expect to be out of the SBC in the coming months.

How close is UL to achieving Doctoral I status?

[cajun4life]

How close is UL to achieving Doctoral I status?

We are closer to a Big 12 invite or I49 getting completed, than we are to Doctoral 1.

[cajunfan96]

We are closer to a Big 12 invite or I49 getting completed, than we are to Doctoral 1.

Probably closer to someone answering the phone in the RCAF office.

[LaCajunsFan]

We are closer to a Big 12 invite or I49 getting completed, than we are to Doctoral 1.

Please post some factual evidence to back up your T1 claim.

[cajun4life]

Please post some factual evidence to back up your T1 claim.

We’ve been saying that we are close to Doc I status since at least 2005. So you tell me how close we are. We’ve said the same things over and over. We are always soooo close.