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    Quote Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU View Post
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    I'm confident that he and the team won't give up, they have shown in all his years to be fighters. We just have such a tough time matching up with just about anybody, and we shouldn't at this stage of the Bustle era. It would be great surprise, but beating Troy would sure be nice. _
    As a consistent proponent of a change, I would agree with this. I believe that RB gets his team to keep fighting but we should not be looking for "moral" victories against ANY SBC team at this stage. I think he has brought us as far as he can and my constant drum beat for change is not meant to diminish what he has done. I just think it is time for this program to step up and become a force in the SBC on a consistent basis. A force means winning consistently and being champions of the Conference on a routine basis

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    What if he goes 7-5 this year?

    Quote Originally Posted by IHateLaState View Post
    As a consistent proponent of a change, I would agree with this. I believe that RB gets his team to keep fighting but we should not be looking for "moral" victories against ANY SBC team at this stage. I think he has brought us as far as he can and my constant drum beat for change is not meant to diminish what he has done. I just think it is time for this program to step up and become a force in the SBC on a consistent basis. A force means winning consistently and being champions of the Conference on a routine basis


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU View Post
    _ J1M, I agree with much of what you have stated my friend as I usually do. The only part I respectfully disagree with is "his greatest drawback being his ability to recognize we are outmatched". I think he knows, He just has limited ways of dealing with it.
    I agree with you on the team not giving up. That is one of Bustle's strengths over the years. He keeps his teams united, regardless.

    On the disagreement with me... when you say "I think he knows... he just has limited ways of dealing with it". I can't tell what a man thinks... I go strictly by what I observe him do. You may be right that "he knows" he's limited and what those limits are... but he has not resolved exceeding those limits in 9 years. If I believed that a UL football coach absolutely cannot break our prescribed limits, I would not follow UL football.

    Personally, when you are up against a tough situation, recruiting-wise... no solo conference championships and no bowls is a "tough situation"... you have to stop going the route of everyone else. You have to pick your poison and take the risks of having done so.

    My preference for UL would have been a systematic move toward a gunslinger passing attack... kind of like Mike Leach did to bring Texas Tech into the winning circle against greater systems. However, with the offense we chose... zone-read option... I would not have had a problem if Bustle stuck to strictly recruiting super athletic running QBs (first and highest regarded skill asset) and worked them into being decent short to medium range passers. Our best Bustle year IMO, talentwise, was MD/Fenroy/Chery's senior year. Having Mike get hobbled and not have a Mike look-a-like athletically to step in... was our downfall.

    Every guy in the 1, 2, 3 depth chart should practically look like a clone of one another. I see us picking up the best possible recruits... with assorted skills... and then having to tailor our offense toward strengths and away from weaknesses.

    UL is in a situation that we have to upset programs on our schedule, including in our conference, in order to succeed. When you have an upset moniker on your letterhead... that says to the head coach... "you must do things differently... take more risks". That is not what I have seen a lot of in the Bustle years. I think we recruit and play "like everyone else"... and if we do... we will never get over the hump and be a special program.

    I think Stokely was a special coach. Despite having been with Clemson in their national championship and having played QB at LSU, and his personal demons, he managed to see what it would take to reach beyond our limits. He recruited some serious talent and knew how to use them. We may have only upset A&M, but we had upset games down to the wire all of those years. That is what has to happen and more at UL. That is the mission of the UL head football coach. If we were dangerous to top 25 teams... like Troy is... we would win our conference and have bowl stories to talk about. UL has to be dangerous. The next coach... whoever he may be... has to have the title "Coach Dangerous"... or I don't want him.

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    I'm sorry but stokley's teams really weren't any better than Bustle's. Stokley usually played 2-3 1-AA schools every year. Bustle usually plays 2-3 BCS schools every year. Those three games were the difference between stokley's winning records and bustle's losing records.


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    _ I'm sorry but stokley's teams really weren't any better than Bustle's. Stokley usually played 2-3 1-AA schools every year. Bustle usually plays 2-3 BCS schools every year. Those three games were the difference between stokley's winning records and bustle's losing records.


    igeaux.mobi _
    You are flat out wrong. You not only need to go back and look at the schedules, you need to know a little bit about the games we played. We regularly beat WAC and CUSA teams that we'd find near impossible to defeat today. And we took OSU (against Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas), Arkansas, Auburn and Alabama down for down in great games. We played just as many "BCS programs". Bustle's 6 win seasons are with an FCS win. He has also had the luxury of 12 game seasons to help get to 50%.

    And... half the "1AA schools" we played in the Stokley years comprise the SBC now. I'm not down on Bustle... except for under-estimating what UL has to do to win and being too conservative. But, I am not backing down from what I personally saw Coach Stokely do. We had a few bad years, but that guy was always preparing his teams to kill a giant. We reached into being a top 40 team with votes in the top 25 back then. That has not happened under Bustle.

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