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    igeaux.mobi
    It is universal that you do not allow someone who does not have a degree a position at. University. You definitely do not allow anyone to lie on their resume. Whether Robert was the right hire or not is debatable. However, Cyp he had a BA from a school and that was a lie. You don't forget graduating. The problem the admin made was not doing enough research into his degrees. But he forced the schools hand, there was no other way


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    Wow nice recap.


    Geaux Cajuns

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ Point well made and well taken, but did we handle it correctly by putting in a coach who was, and still isn't, qualified to be a division one head coach?

    Cyprien does have an undergraduate degree, he just does not have advanced degrees as they were implied on his resume. Why is it important that our basketball coach have an advanced degree?

    One more point after agreeing with your post. Should we have allowed Lee to Coach for ONE YEAR as interim coach and then hired a more qualified coach. Lee could have remained with our program as an assistant after a new coach was hired.

    Question, does Lee have an advanced degree? _
    Do you understand the concept of lying and misrepresentation? I don't think you've thought this out very well. First, you don't take the results of Lee and go back and reconsider Cyprien. You point out that Cyprien was an unfortunate situation and another followed in Lee.

    To me, you are saying "Should I have jumped into the fire after I didn't drink the poison, or should I have just gone ahead and drank the poison and not jumped into the fire?" Did you leave room in your logic for "neither one"?

    You do not discover that a university coach puts false information on his resume and keep him. It is one of the clearest decisions this university has ever made. They may fumble and bumble around about a lot of things... but that was one they actually knew how to handle.

    Cyprien wasn't dismissed because he didn't have the advanced degree as indicated on his resume. He got fired for not being truthful. If he would have put down that he was married with 6 kids and we discovered he never married... he would have been fired as well. Would you be asking, "Do we require all coaches to be married with 6 kids... aren't 2 enough?"

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ Point well made and well taken, but did we handle it correctly by putting in a coach who was, and still isn't, qualified to be a division one head coach?

    Cyprien does have an undergraduate degree, he just does not have advanced degrees as they were implied on his resume. Why is it important that our basketball coach have an advanced degree?

    One more point after agreeing with your post. Should we have allowed Lee to Coach for ONE YEAR as interim coach and then hired a more qualified coach. Lee could have remained with our program as an assistant after a new coach was hired.

    Question, does Lee have an advanced degree? _
    You are getting confused. You don't say "Should I have gone ahead and drank the poison and therefore not jumped into the fire?" Lee is not justification for reconsideration of Cyprien. There are a lot of other people out there and many decisions can be made at many different points in time.

    Cyprien was fired for lying on his resume. We didn't fire him because he didn't have an advanced degree. He falsified his resume. He had to be terminated. Pure and simple. Easiest decision an AD can make.

    The advanced degree question is about like saying "He put down that he was a widower with 8 kids but he's never been married and only has 3 kids. Do we require a coach to be married?" No, we require them to tell the truth.

    I'm just thankful this got discovered very early on and we weren't into year 3 with a 3 year extension freshly inked.

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    Default Re: The Jerry Baldwin Saga

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ Point well made and well taken, but did we handle it correctly by putting in a coach who was, and still isn't, qualified to be a division one head coach?

    Cyprien does have an undergraduate degree, he just does not have advanced degrees as they were implied on his resume. Why is it important that our basketball coach have an advanced degree?

    One more point after agreeing with your post. Should we have allowed Lee to Coach for ONE YEAR as interim coach and then hired a more qualified coach. Lee could have remained with our program as an assistant after a new coach was hired.

    Question, does Lee have an advanced degree? _
    Coach Lee has a bachleor's degree, not a Master's. That was not the issue with Cyprien. Cyprien's degree was not from an accredited school.

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    SlappyCajun and Just1More,

    You replied to my first post without reading my second post!!! If you look at my reply to Turbine I said;


    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ You are correct. I guess I didn't remember the entire story. Here it is for those that may need a reminder (as I did) for how it all came down when we hired Cyprien. _

    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxi ma culpa.

    Now, am I forgiven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ SlappyCajun and Just1More,

    You replied to my first post without reading my second post!!! If you look at my reply to Turbine I said;





    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxi ma culpa.

    Now, am I forgiven? _
    I forgive you and thanks again for your recapture.

    Geaux Cajuns

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

    Default Re: The Jerry Baldwin Saga

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiredof theBS View Post
    _ SlappyCajun and Just1More,

    You replied to my first post without reading my second post!!! If you look at my reply to Turbine I said;





    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxi ma culpa.

    Now, am I forgiven? _
    Sorry about that. I apologize for piling on when I didn't catch the follow-ups and I also didn't mean to post the same thing twice. I thought my first post glitched so I rewrote it. I failed you twice. My apologies.

    Merry Christmas and have a safe holiday season!

  9. #229

    Default Remember Cyprien?

    An ESPN article gives his side of the story about his firing.

    http://ultoday.com/node/sports-headlines


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    Also, a nice article about Softball's Wallace, who picked Louisiana over Texas & Arkansas.

    That one is particularly interesting, because if the Lotiefs can out-recruit programs with those resources, what could they do with a little more resources???

    http://ultoday.com/node/sports-headlines


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