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    Originally posted by CajunCharlie
    What is the rest of the story, and why are you bringing this up? :confused: confused:
    "This is a nonuniversity matter and it's not my place to implicate somebody else," Koloskie said. "I'm very comfortable that Coach Cyprien did not intentionally violate NCAA rules in this matter."

    While he was not implacated,the NCAA did put UNLV on probation for violations dealing with Lamar Odom during the summer 1996-December 1997. Yes coach Cyprien was there at the time.

    Someone made the statement that nothing ever came from the NCAA investigation. On coach Cyprien no, on the program,yes. It's something we all should have known about before hand,not after the fact. Regardless of which coach anyone wanted to be named.

    UNLV Hoops Placed on Probation
    By TIM DAHLBERG
    AP Sports Writer
    LAS VEGAS (AP) -- UNLV's basketball program, no stranger to problems with the NCAA, was placed on four years' probation Tuesday for violations that included a booster's payment of $5,600 to Lamar Odom and the failure to monitor recruiting visits.

    UNLV responded to the sanctions by firing coach Bill Bayno, according to Fox Sports and KTNV-TV. An afternoon news conference was scheduled to discuss the sanctions.

    Bayno, who had coached the Runnin' Rebels for five years, did not respond to calls on his cell phone. The Rebels were off to a 3-4 start this season and lost Saturday to rival Nevada.

    The university escaped the ``death penalty'' for the program despite the fact the infractions occurred within five years of a previous probation and were similar to earlier UNLV violations.

    "We don't have to put a team on the shelf. It's a drastic remedy," said Jack Friedenthal, chairman of the NCAA Committee on Infractions. "It was awhile back and it occurred at a different time and level."

    Odom never played for UNLV and is now with the Los Angeles Clippers.

    The penalty ‹ which included a one-year postseason ban ‹ came despite UNLV's attempt to minimize its problems by imposing its own sanctions earlier this year. The violations occurred between the summer of 1996 and December 1997, the NCAA said.

    The governing body also ruled that UNLV cannot participate in outside tournaments next season and will have to cut a total of two scholarships for the next two seasons. It also ordered the university to disassociate itself from two prominent boosters.

    The NCAA said it was concerned the violations were ``very similar'' to those in a 1993 infractions case involving UNLV, and expressed concern that university officials did not appear to accept responsibility for some of the violations.

    "We want people to straighten up and fly right," Friedenthal said.

    Friedenthal said the university was given some leeway in the finding it was a repeat violator because the 1993 sanctions stemmed from recruiting violations several years earlier under former coach Jerry Tarkanian.

    In its report, the NCAA said the university ``should have had a heightened sense of vigilance'' about the basketball program.

    The payments were made while Odom was in Las Vegas in the summer of 1997 and was enrolled in a summer class while awaiting his formal admission to UNLV. They continued, the NCAA said, after the university announced it would not admit Odom in the wake of publicity over his recruiting status.

    According to the report, UNLV booster and local dentist David Chapman gave Odom $400 to $800 two or three times a week, paying him a total of about $4,000 before the university decided not to allow him to enroll. He later gave him other money, the NCAA said.

    Friedenthal said the university should have been aware of the relationship because Chapman regularly visited the campus to play in pickup basketball games with Odom and was a well-known booster.

    "It's the kind of thing you just must watch for," he said.

    In September, UNLV said it would voluntarily cut one scholarship and have coach Bill Bayno spend more time at the university administering the program in an attempt to satisfy the NCAA's investigation.

    That didn't prove enough, however, as the NCAA went beyond UNLV's admissions of certain violations to find even more itself.

    A current UNLV player, Chris Richardson, was earlier suspended for part of this season for lying to NCAA investigators about how he acquired a bed for his apartment.

    UNLV was put on probation in 1993 for violations in the recruitment of Lloyd Daniels when Tarkanian was still the coach. Tarkanian was involved in a long-running battle with the NCAA.

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    Originally posted by cajuncharlie
    What is the rest of the story, and why are you bringing this up?:confused:confused:
    I would rather know this stuff beforehand instead of getting blindsided by some goofball.

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    I am waiting for some substantiated facts that tie Cyprien committed any violations. As I read other articles, after doing a google search for the rest of the story - it appeared there was never any mention of any proven wrongdoing in the incident which occurred in 1999. I still do not see his name even mentioned in the Lamar Odom saga.

    In short, it seems like you have some axe to grind. If you are going to post a story, post the entire story.


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    I think Glynn has all the makings of a great coach, but he has to know UL fans will look closer than other fans. I would rather it all be in the open sooner rather than later.

    I do not like the phrase "Coach Cyprien did not intentionally violate NCAA rules in this matter." I do like Cyprien's response to allegations shortly after leaving UNLV "I'm not even mentioned in the NCAA report, so there's nothing to run from."

    Honestly we will never know and it is probably all water under the bridge -the thing is- most fans at other schools could probably care less about ancient history. But then again their fans never had to sit through a death penalty.

    Since the 1972 NCAA fiasco, I think the NCAA has a prerequisite to be hit over the head with video proof of violations to really punish or even come to a conclusion.

    Unfortunately the NCAA seems to take the stance if you move away from the scene of the violation we will look the other way, or not look at all.

    But that doesn’t mean UL fans shouldn’t look.


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    Vatican, I think I posted the following with the article;

    "While he was not implacated,the NCAA did put UNLV on probation for violations dealing with Lamar Odom during the summer 1996-December 1997. Yes coach Cyprien was there at the time."

    What part of not implacated do you not understand? And yes, he was there during the time period of summer 1996-December 1997. Someone posted that nothing every came of this investigation,that is wrong!None of the staff was asked to come back after the NCAA findings. This is information that should have been looked at when considering any candidate period. The fact that the local kool-aid media does not do their homework or consider this information relevant makes no difference to me.

    "In short, it seems like you have some axe to grind. If you are going to post a story, post the entire story."

    I have no axe to grind. In fact, I will continue to support this program with my money, as I have done in the past. But this is information that should have been discussed.Again, reading comprehension must not be required in Vatican. The whole article is there including comments from the UNLV administration stating that they could find no evidence to the allegations against Cyprien.


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    Try http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../10818590.html This is my first and only post. I have been reading you for along time. I know enough about this program to know that this is just wrong. Coach Lee truly deserved this job. You see you all want someone that has roots here and wants to raise his family here. You say this time and time again. You had this man here. Coach Lee was this man. He did not need to be offered a 3-4-5 year contract. He should have been given his chance. Just because you take a man from a bigger program does not make him a bigger man. A bigger man is all about respect, morals and doing the right thing. I am sick to my stomach today. I feel so bad for this good man. Did you really make a coaching change - I guess you will have to wait and see? In my mind you went down the same path. I hope and pray I am wrong, but even if I am it still was not the right thing to do. I have pondered all day about posting this. It was the right thing to do.


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    Originally posted by Turbine
    I do not like the phrase "Coach Cyprien did not intentionally violate NCAA rules in this matter." I do like Cyprien's response to allegations shortly after leaving UNLV "I'm not even mentioned in the NCAA report, so there's nothing to run from."
    Thank you Turbine! Someone finally get's it. Considering the history of this program, this was important to get out now. Again, I will support this new coach, but the whole picture needed to be put out for all of us to examine.

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    Some of us are asking the same questions! Some here just don't want to talk about it.


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    Originally posted by Turbine
    I do not like the phrase "Coach Cyprien did not intentionally violate NCAA rules in this matter."
    So how would you have liked the phrase to be worded, Turbine? All of this post selection information being offered by Guru does in fact smack of sour grapes. I can understand being disappointed that Robert Lee was not selected to be the head coach. I am somewhat disappointed myself, but to bring this incident to the table after Cyprien was selected appears to be a cheap shot. Why wait so late? Why wasn't this posted when his name surfaced as a candidate?

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    Cajun Guru get a life? You are ready to convict this coach before he has been convicted of doing any thing wrong.


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    Originally posted by cajuncharlie
    So how would you have liked the phrase to be worded, Turbine?
    Good question, for all I know it could have been a slip of the tongue for the Athletic Director to state it that way.

    While I didn't like the Athletic Directors remark, and think he should have remained quite -as to not raise more questions than answers- I did like Glynn Cyprien's response "I'm not even mentioned in the NCAA report"

  12. Default Cyprien selected as Ragin' Cajuns’ next coach

    LOUISIANA La. — Louisiana athletic director Nelson Schexnayder is poised to name Oklahoma State assistant coach Glynn Cyprien as UL’s next men’s basketball coach.

    A press conference has been announced for 3 p.m. Wednesday, and Cyprien is expected to be the choice to succeed Jessie Evans as the Ragin’ Cajuns’ leader.

    New Orleans native Cyprien will be named over current interim head coach Robert Lee, Mississippi State assistant Robert Kirby and LSU assistant Butch Pierre, who sent a statement out on Monday via LSU’s sports information department that he removed his name from consideration.

    “The University of Louisiana Lafayette is a nice place,’’ Pierre said in the release. “My wife (Clemmie) and I enjoyed our interview. We have decided it is best to stay at LSU. I think that we have something happening here very special the next couple of years.’’

    Kirby acknowledged that he received word of the decision on Monday.

    “Coach Cyprien is a good guy,’’ Kirby said. “He’s a class individual. He’ll do a good job.’’

    The rest of the story

    Bruce Brown
    bbrown@theadvertiser.com


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