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    I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by imperial cajun View Post
    _ I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!! _
    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I do watch Fox and also CNN. Note, I said SOME in the media would focus on the folks outside the arena. Not all. As far as wishing the industry would go away, you are directly threatening my family and others when you say that. Now if you say the industry should continue to improve their environmental and safety record, I agree with that The bulk of the industry has made tremendous strides in this regard. BP is an unfortunate exception. As far as diversifying the economy most would also agree that is a good idea. Do you have any concrete and specific suggestions on how to do that. Your comment about south Louisiana being tied to Saudi Arabia is somewhat correct. However if the south Louisiana energy industry disappears, that only makes the rest of us more reliant on foreign nations. Jobs that could be here will be elsewhere. Look, the world needs a certain amount of energy to run. If it does not get it from here, it will get it somewhere. That somewhere will likely be in unstable places. Right now the world gets 75% of it's energy from fossil fuels. Desptie a massive effort to go to alternative energy, it will be at 70% in 20 years. None of the alternatives can compete economically. The only way that occurs is if oil and natural gas prices increase tremendously and the national oil companies will prevent that from happening. Do you know the difference between national oil companies and the international oil companies. If not, I will give you an example. Petrobras is a national oil company (Brazil) which is getting support for offshore development from the Obama administration while Exxon is an international oil company as they have interests all over the world. It is more complex than that as Petrobras also operates certain fields in the Gulf of Mexico. . Regarding natural gas, an increase in it's usage would be one of the best things to happen to Louisiana. A large percentage of the shallow water (shelf) reserves in the Gulf of Mexico arenatural gas. It is a clean burning fuel and environmentally friendly. However, do you know how we get natural gas. The same way we get oil. we drill for it. Also, unlike the belief of people like Nancy Pelosi and the supposed genius Al Gore, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Both have said we need to get away from fossil fuel and move to energy sources like natural gas. Of course it is not a surprise when politicians show their technical ignorance. Natural gas is simply oil that has been impacted by varying temperatures and pressure. By the way do you have any technical knowledge of what is involved in exploring for and producing energy. Do you know what pore pressure is? Do you know what is involved in seismic interpretation. Do you have any idea what is involved with tertiary recovery or the economics businesses go through in making their investment decisions. If not, there are probably people here who would be willing to help educate you. _
    One major mistake you made was wishing the industry went away. I'm not that stupid. My exact words were being LESS DEPENDENT on the oil industry. I am not directly threatning your family, so stuff that in the garbage were it belongs drama queen. Disasters put stigmas on certain industries. Look at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island did for Nuclear Energy. Nuclear Energy is 100 times cleaner and safer than oil but due to the disasters it has a negative stigma. So I could care less about the "strides" the oil industry has made, because all that is out the window with the plume of oil drifting around in the gulf at the moment.

    I agree Natural Gas is a great idea and would not cripple South louisiana. Oil is a nasty habit the state needs to break. If you think that threatens your family, I hate to say it man but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I work, live, and play in South Louisiana. I watched my dad almost lose everything during the oil crash in the 80's. I don't want to see that again. Understand?

    I sure do have some suggestions by the way. Agriculture. Agriculture. Agriculture. What happened to this state? We used to be a Rice powerhouse. Now we barely produce enough to say we are a Rice state. Farmers can't make a living anymore because of oil driving up the price on everything. The only thing anyone is growing out there is Soybeans now, why, it's just about the only way to break even. Call the Farm Bureau Marketing Association, they will tell you. Sad really. We are a sunbelt state. Little winter. It's a subtropical climate anything but Tobacco will grow here. That's a better way to sustain an economy than a resource tied to Saudi Arabia. Just my two cents. The movie industry seems to be catching on down here. Maybe there is another option.

    I see Oil in general as a drug. People will use and abuse it until every last drop is gone and then will spend everything they have just to find some more. Even kill for it. There has to be another way. The Oil companies can only keep everything bottled up for so long. We have never heard of Fusion getting any credible research dollars. No one wants to touch Nuclear Fission because oh it's dirty. Look at the Gulf, how long will it be destroyed from a "cleaner" energy source. Corn Ethanol was a huge bust and even wreaked havoc on food prices all to make W's stock go boom. I hope one day T. Boone Pickens runs for the biggest office in the land. Man has ideas. Wind Farms. It's super clean. A bit impractical but every little bit counts. Solar energy never gets the love it deserves. Why? Oil companies make sure to keep it too expensive to be viable. The options are out there. We just want the drug. The Black gold. One more barrell is all we need honest. I can quit anytime I want. Honestly. Cmon baby just give us some more oil. We need it!!! This is what I hear from the Cajundome today. Sounds like 15,000 meth heads just asking for one more hit.

    I like that you ended your post showing your technical know how. Awesome. Want me to use mine? Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperial cajun View Post
    _ I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!! _
    I am assuming you drive an electric car... have a solar-powered home... use NO recreational vehicles... and do not fly, cruise or ride a bus. If you use any of those, shut up.

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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ One major mistake you made was wishing the industry went away. I'm not that stupid. My exact words were being LESS DEPENDENT on the oil industry. I am not directly threatning your family, so stuff that in the garbage were it belongs drama queen. Disasters put stigmas on certain industries. Look at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island did for Nuclear Energy. Nuclear Energy is 100 times cleaner and safer than oil but due to the disasters it has a negative stigma. So I could care less about the "strides" the oil industry has made, because all that is out the window with the plume of oil drifting around in the gulf at the moment.

    I agree Natural Gas is a great idea and would not cripple South louisiana. Oil is a nasty habit the state needs to break. If you think that threatens your family, I hate to say it man but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I work, live, and play in South Louisiana. I watched my dad almost lose everything during the oil crash in the 80's. I don't want to see that again. Understand?

    I sure do have some suggestions by the way. Agriculture. Agriculture. Agriculture. What happened to this state? We used to be a Rice powerhouse. Now we barely produce enough to say we are a Rice state. Farmers can't make a living anymore because of oil driving up the price on everything. The only thing anyone is growing out there is Soybeans now, why, it's just about the only way to break even. Call the Farm Bureau Marketing Association, they will tell you. Sad really. We are a sunbelt state. Little winter. It's a subtropical climate anything but Tobacco will grow here. That's a better way to sustain an economy than a resource tied to Saudi Arabia. Just my two cents. The movie industry seems to be catching on down here. Maybe there is another option.

    I see Oil in general as a drug. People will use and abuse it until every last drop is gone and then will spend everything they have just to find some more. Even kill for it. There has to be another way. The Oil companies can only keep everything bottled up for so long. We have never heard of Fusion getting any credible research dollars. No one wants to touch Nuclear Fission because oh it's dirty. Look at the Gulf, how long will it be destroyed from a "cleaner" energy source. Corn Ethanol was a huge bust and even wreaked havoc on food prices all to make W's stock go boom. I hope one day T. Boone Pickens runs for the biggest office in the land. Man has ideas. Wind Farms. It's super clean. A bit impractical but every little bit counts. Solar energy never gets the love it deserves. Why? Oil companies make sure to keep it too expensive to be viable. The options are out there. We just want the drug. The Black gold. One more barrell is all we need honest. I can quit anytime I want. Honestly. Cmon baby just give us some more oil. We need it!!! This is what I hear from the Cajundome today. Sounds like 15,000 meth heads just asking for one more hit.

    I like that you ended your post showing your technical know how. Awesome. Want me to use mine? Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I. _
    The next time you offer a well-rounded, educated opinion on this board, will be the first time. There are more holes in your arguments than a Kevin Fouquier Defense.

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    CajunZ1's Avatar CajunZ1 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I. _


    Listen... I'm gonna go ahead and need you to come in on Sunday as well, mmk?

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    CajunZ1's Avatar CajunZ1 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    I see Oil in general as a drug. People will use and abuse it until every last drop is gone and then will spend everything they have just to find some more. Even kill for it. There has to be another way. The Oil companies can only keep everything bottled up for so long. We have never heard of Fusion getting any credible research dollars. No one wants to touch Nuclear Fission because oh it's dirty. Look at the Gulf, how long will it be destroyed from a "cleaner" energy source. Corn Ethanol was a huge bust and even wreaked havoc on food prices all to make W's stock go boom. I hope one day T. Boone Pickens runs for the biggest office in the land. Man has ideas. Wind Farms. It's super clean. A bit impractical but every little bit counts. Solar energy never gets the love it deserves. Why? Oil companies make sure to keep it too expensive to be viable. The options are out there. We just want the drug. The Black gold. One more barrell is all we need honest. I can quit anytime I want. Honestly. Cmon baby just give us some more oil. We need it!!! This is what I hear from the Cajundome today. Sounds like 15,000 meth heads just asking for one more hit.

    I work for the "How to limit the efficiency of renewable energy" department of Big Oil Inc. All we do is drink single-malt and go on peoples' roofs to break their solar panels.

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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    The Cajundome is packed with Meth heads this morning...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunZ1 View Post
    _

    Listen... I'm gonna go ahead and need you to come in on Sunday as well, mmk? _
    Now that was funny :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunZ1 View Post
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    Listen... I'm gonna go ahead and need you to come in on Sunday as well, mmk? _
    Well you see Bob its not that I'm lazy, i just really don't care.

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    It is easy to write off what I'm saying as stupid, full of holes, or make fun of it. The problem is not one of you can come to the conclusion that none of this is about economic survival. It's maintaining the status quo. Keeping things just the way they are. No need for change. That kind of lazy attitude is the main problem in this state. Keeps us in the dark ages compared to the rest of the country. Sure the oil companies come and in the words of Daniel Plainview blow gold all over us, but what happens if the Saudi's decide to slam the price of oil again like the 80's? Can Louisiana survive another crash like that? Should they have learned the first time? Do we really need the oil industry to survive, or are people too imbeded in their current logic that changing is out of the question? Food for thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ It is easy to write off what I'm saying as stupid, full of holes, or make fun of it. The problem is not one of you can come to the conclusion that none of this is about economic survival. It's maintaining the status quo. Keeping things just the way they are. No need for change. That kind of lazy attitude is the main problem in this state. Keeps us in the dark ages compared to the rest of the country. Sure the oil companies come and in the words of Daniel Plainview blow gold all over us, but what happens if the Saudi's decide to slam the price of oil again like the 80's? Can Louisiana survive another crash like that? Should they have learned the first time? Do we really need the oil industry to survive, or are people too imbeded in their current logic that changing is out of the question? Food for thought. _
    I look at your argument the same way I see people argue "Fire Bustle." Yes, I can come up with the simple conclusion that we should not depend our local economy on oil (same as those that simply want Bustle fired), but you also need to come up with a plan to replace the money and jobs lost (how do you pay for Bustle's buyout and pay for new coach, who do you hire).

    So I ask you, what industry should we look into to compensate for the money and jobs lost by not focusing our efforts in the oil industry? Do we diversify the area with various industries? If yes, which industries?

    Fact is, we have a niche down here in the oil industry. Oil companies are located here and they pay well. They pay the employees well and that in turn generates tax dollars and disposable income (to buy UL season tickets for instance).

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