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    I compliment those who have put in the time and effort to organize this rally... and surely hope it has the intended impact, which is to get this stupid ban lifted. But we all know that there is ONE person who can get the ban lifted TODAY... and he COULDN'T CARE LESS about a few thousand people in south Louisiana getting together to chant against a drilling ban.

    I hope enough people out there are having voters remorse.


  2. #22

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    So who else is here in the dome?



    igeaux.mobi


  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ It is interesting to me why this rally even exists. The moratorium was in response to the oil spill that is destroying the coastline and the entire ecosystem of the Gulf of Mexico. So it seems like some people here need to be reminded of cause and effect here. The rally at the Cajundome should be about the people telling corporate giants were tired of their carelessness. What? This is about the government? The government didn't cause the oil spill? Oh I get it, we like the corporate rigmarole. As long as it keeps money in our pockets. This is futility at it's finest. Kudos to the talking heads in Washington keeping the heat off of BP. Clutch!! No one really cares what BP is doing these days, the government is the big bad wolf and they are coming for your brick house. I have heard that "oil is a way of life" from so many people who work in the oil industry. No. Oil is a way of dependence for South Louisiana.

    If the oil industry dies in South Louisiana, South Louisiana dies with it. This is unacceptable. The moratorium is a perfect opportunity for Louisiana to step back and say what can we do to move forward here. You can't be a one trick pony when your pony isn't the best stallion in the stable. OPEC rules the international oil trade. Isn't that funny? Everyone that works in the oil industry in South Louisiana is dependent on guys in Saudi Arabia to keep them in work. Strange bedfellows? I say yes. I can talk until I am blue in the face and no one will listen. Louisiana's dependence on the black gold is going to ruin this state. Ask Detroit. So show up at the rally, rah rah against the big bad government but remember who you should be mad at. BP. They have singlehandedly destroyed the Gulf of Mexico. The government hasn't spilled a drop of oil. _

    You are correct. And, I doubt you'd find anybody out there that isn't agry with BP and its concerted efforts to entice contractors to cut corners and finish quickly by offering large bonuses to do so. There is not much of a debate there. However, the moratorium is quite frankly a knee jerk reaction that has been symbolic of the current administration. The moratorium unfavorably and illogically cast part of the blame on the oil field industry as a whole and that is not right. The moratorium was supposed to effect deep water operations ONLY but yet do you know any companies drilling in shallow waters that are currently operating or getting permits to do so? This doesn't just affect this state, it affects the southern region and beyond.

    The rally is in place to hopefully put pressure on Washington to lift the ban while still working out the various regulations they wish to enact. The industry has been around a lot longer than we have and while the current conditions are tragic, the industry should not be shut down while the government fumbles around for answers they don't know how to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRed View Post
    _ I compliment those who have put in the time and effort to organize this rally... and surely hope it has the intended impact, which is to get this stupid ban lifted. But we all know that there is ONE person who can get the ban lifted TODAY... and he COULDN'T CARE LESS about a few thousand people in south Louisiana getting together to chant against a drilling ban.

    I hope enough people out there are having voters remorse. _

    ditto.....

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    I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by imperial cajun View Post
    _ I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!! _
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I do watch Fox and also CNN. Note, I said SOME in the media would focus on the folks outside the arena. Not all. As far as wishing the industry would go away, you are directly threatening my family and others when you say that. Now if you say the industry should continue to improve their environmental and safety record, I agree with that The bulk of the industry has made tremendous strides in this regard. BP is an unfortunate exception. As far as diversifying the economy most would also agree that is a good idea. Do you have any concrete and specific suggestions on how to do that. Your comment about south Louisiana being tied to Saudi Arabia is somewhat correct. However if the south Louisiana energy industry disappears, that only makes the rest of us more reliant on foreign nations. Jobs that could be here will be elsewhere. Look, the world needs a certain amount of energy to run. If it does not get it from here, it will get it somewhere. That somewhere will likely be in unstable places. Right now the world gets 75% of it's energy from fossil fuels. Desptie a massive effort to go to alternative energy, it will be at 70% in 20 years. None of the alternatives can compete economically. The only way that occurs is if oil and natural gas prices increase tremendously and the national oil companies will prevent that from happening. Do you know the difference between national oil companies and the international oil companies. If not, I will give you an example. Petrobras is a national oil company (Brazil) which is getting support for offshore development from the Obama administration while Exxon is an international oil company as they have interests all over the world. It is more complex than that as Petrobras also operates certain fields in the Gulf of Mexico. . Regarding natural gas, an increase in it's usage would be one of the best things to happen to Louisiana. A large percentage of the shallow water (shelf) reserves in the Gulf of Mexico arenatural gas. It is a clean burning fuel and environmentally friendly. However, do you know how we get natural gas. The same way we get oil. we drill for it. Also, unlike the belief of people like Nancy Pelosi and the supposed genius Al Gore, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Both have said we need to get away from fossil fuel and move to energy sources like natural gas. Of course it is not a surprise when politicians show their technical ignorance. Natural gas is simply oil that has been impacted by varying temperatures and pressure. By the way do you have any technical knowledge of what is involved in exploring for and producing energy. Do you know what pore pressure is? Do you know what is involved in seismic interpretation. Do you have any idea what is involved with tertiary recovery or the economics businesses go through in making their investment decisions. If not, there are probably people here who would be willing to help educate you. _
    One major mistake you made was wishing the industry went away. I'm not that stupid. My exact words were being LESS DEPENDENT on the oil industry. I am not directly threatning your family, so stuff that in the garbage were it belongs drama queen. Disasters put stigmas on certain industries. Look at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island did for Nuclear Energy. Nuclear Energy is 100 times cleaner and safer than oil but due to the disasters it has a negative stigma. So I could care less about the "strides" the oil industry has made, because all that is out the window with the plume of oil drifting around in the gulf at the moment.

    I agree Natural Gas is a great idea and would not cripple South louisiana. Oil is a nasty habit the state needs to break. If you think that threatens your family, I hate to say it man but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I work, live, and play in South Louisiana. I watched my dad almost lose everything during the oil crash in the 80's. I don't want to see that again. Understand?

    I sure do have some suggestions by the way. Agriculture. Agriculture. Agriculture. What happened to this state? We used to be a Rice powerhouse. Now we barely produce enough to say we are a Rice state. Farmers can't make a living anymore because of oil driving up the price on everything. The only thing anyone is growing out there is Soybeans now, why, it's just about the only way to break even. Call the Farm Bureau Marketing Association, they will tell you. Sad really. We are a sunbelt state. Little winter. It's a subtropical climate anything but Tobacco will grow here. That's a better way to sustain an economy than a resource tied to Saudi Arabia. Just my two cents. The movie industry seems to be catching on down here. Maybe there is another option.

    I see Oil in general as a drug. People will use and abuse it until every last drop is gone and then will spend everything they have just to find some more. Even kill for it. There has to be another way. The Oil companies can only keep everything bottled up for so long. We have never heard of Fusion getting any credible research dollars. No one wants to touch Nuclear Fission because oh it's dirty. Look at the Gulf, how long will it be destroyed from a "cleaner" energy source. Corn Ethanol was a huge bust and even wreaked havoc on food prices all to make W's stock go boom. I hope one day T. Boone Pickens runs for the biggest office in the land. Man has ideas. Wind Farms. It's super clean. A bit impractical but every little bit counts. Solar energy never gets the love it deserves. Why? Oil companies make sure to keep it too expensive to be viable. The options are out there. We just want the drug. The Black gold. One more barrell is all we need honest. I can quit anytime I want. Honestly. Cmon baby just give us some more oil. We need it!!! This is what I hear from the Cajundome today. Sounds like 15,000 meth heads just asking for one more hit.

    I like that you ended your post showing your technical know how. Awesome. Want me to use mine? Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I.

  8. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperial cajun View Post
    _ I highly doubt that Fox will show up with a preconceived script, they never take sides unlike the other news shows. The government should never stop us from doing anything. If we want to take 1.6 million acres of virgin cypress swamp and turn it into marsh, so be it. If the canals we build thru the new marshes let in salt water so the cypress can not come back,so be it. If we want to build more canals into the marsh to extract oil and dredge for ship lanes and let salt water further upstream, so be it. If a huricane barrels thru un-obstructed, so be it. We don't need federal funds for levies, reconstruction of homes and businesses, highway evacuation routes or coastal erosion reclamation. We should be allowed to spray chemicals on anything we want and in any amount we want, regardless of the effect down stream and on our neighbors, so be it. If we ruin our fisheries and our beaches, we won't ask the government to step in, we will fix it ourselves. We don't want or need them to do anything. People have never and will never rape this land in reckless abandon to make a buck. It just will never happen. I could not agree with you more. United we stand, baby!!! _
    I am assuming you drive an electric car... have a solar-powered home... use NO recreational vehicles... and do not fly, cruise or ride a bus. If you use any of those, shut up.

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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ One major mistake you made was wishing the industry went away. I'm not that stupid. My exact words were being LESS DEPENDENT on the oil industry. I am not directly threatning your family, so stuff that in the garbage were it belongs drama queen. Disasters put stigmas on certain industries. Look at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island did for Nuclear Energy. Nuclear Energy is 100 times cleaner and safer than oil but due to the disasters it has a negative stigma. So I could care less about the "strides" the oil industry has made, because all that is out the window with the plume of oil drifting around in the gulf at the moment.

    I agree Natural Gas is a great idea and would not cripple South louisiana. Oil is a nasty habit the state needs to break. If you think that threatens your family, I hate to say it man but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I work, live, and play in South Louisiana. I watched my dad almost lose everything during the oil crash in the 80's. I don't want to see that again. Understand?

    I sure do have some suggestions by the way. Agriculture. Agriculture. Agriculture. What happened to this state? We used to be a Rice powerhouse. Now we barely produce enough to say we are a Rice state. Farmers can't make a living anymore because of oil driving up the price on everything. The only thing anyone is growing out there is Soybeans now, why, it's just about the only way to break even. Call the Farm Bureau Marketing Association, they will tell you. Sad really. We are a sunbelt state. Little winter. It's a subtropical climate anything but Tobacco will grow here. That's a better way to sustain an economy than a resource tied to Saudi Arabia. Just my two cents. The movie industry seems to be catching on down here. Maybe there is another option.

    I see Oil in general as a drug. People will use and abuse it until every last drop is gone and then will spend everything they have just to find some more. Even kill for it. There has to be another way. The Oil companies can only keep everything bottled up for so long. We have never heard of Fusion getting any credible research dollars. No one wants to touch Nuclear Fission because oh it's dirty. Look at the Gulf, how long will it be destroyed from a "cleaner" energy source. Corn Ethanol was a huge bust and even wreaked havoc on food prices all to make W's stock go boom. I hope one day T. Boone Pickens runs for the biggest office in the land. Man has ideas. Wind Farms. It's super clean. A bit impractical but every little bit counts. Solar energy never gets the love it deserves. Why? Oil companies make sure to keep it too expensive to be viable. The options are out there. We just want the drug. The Black gold. One more barrell is all we need honest. I can quit anytime I want. Honestly. Cmon baby just give us some more oil. We need it!!! This is what I hear from the Cajundome today. Sounds like 15,000 meth heads just asking for one more hit.

    I like that you ended your post showing your technical know how. Awesome. Want me to use mine? Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I. _
    The next time you offer a well-rounded, educated opinion on this board, will be the first time. There are more holes in your arguments than a Kevin Fouquier Defense.

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    CajunZ1's Avatar CajunZ1 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ Need to know about FIN 48? Sarbannes Oxley? Wanna know all about GASB 34? How about OMB Circular A-133? I can go on for hours. Are you impressed? No. Neither was I. _


    Listen... I'm gonna go ahead and need you to come in on Sunday as well, mmk?

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