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    Agreed CajunHawk. It is nothing but a political rally and Jundal will just be preaching to the choir. That is the real reason media outlets won't cover it. It really burns me that the seafood industry will be talking! It seems like they would never want this to happen again and the ban in drilling shouldn't hit them to hard. I really do not understand that one. I agree the wrong people are getting blamed and I think this kind of stuff only hurts the cause.

    igeaux.mobi


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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    we're all racist too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    _ Agreed CajunHawk. It is nothing but a political rally and Jundal will just be preaching to the choir. That is the real reason media outlets won't cover it. It really burns me that the seafood industry will be talking! It seems like they would never want this to happen again and the ban in drilling shouldn't hit them to hard. I really do not understand that one. I agree the wrong people are getting blamed and I think this kind of stuff only hurts the cause.

    igeaux.mobi _
    Seafood industry is participating as they won't have any customers if the heart of Louisiana's economy is destroyed. Also, many of the guys in seafood affected are having it doubly hard as their brother, dad, or even themselves also work in the energy business. As far as who is responsible, it is almost solely BP. Just about everyone in the industry agrees with that. It is unfortunate a supposedly prudent operator made so many poor decisions. They deserve all the criticism they are getting but why should the companies who have the right priorities be impacted so negatively. Some of the people who will be most negatively impacted by this are the waitresses at restaurants throughout south Louisiana. Without customers, they will not have tips and will really suffer. I wonder how many people truly understand the basics of economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ Without customers, they will not have tips and will really suffer. I wonder how many people truly understand the basics of economics. _
    Right up there with the number of folks with common sense. Which is increasingly UNcommon lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ You must not watch Fox News there comrade. _
    I do watch Fox and also CNN. Note, I said SOME in the media would focus on the folks outside the arena. Not all. As far as wishing the industry would go away, you are directly threatening my family and others when you say that. Now if you say the industry should continue to improve their environmental and safety record, I agree with that The bulk of the industry has made tremendous strides in this regard. BP is an unfortunate exception. As far as diversifying the economy most would also agree that is a good idea. Do you have any concrete and specific suggestions on how to do that. Your comment about south Louisiana being tied to Saudi Arabia is somewhat correct. However if the south Louisiana energy industry disappears, that only makes the rest of us more reliant on foreign nations. Jobs that could be here will be elsewhere. Look, the world needs a certain amount of energy to run. If it does not get it from here, it will get it somewhere. That somewhere will likely be in unstable places. Right now the world gets 75% of it's energy from fossil fuels. Desptie a massive effort to go to alternative energy, it will be at 70% in 20 years. None of the alternatives can compete economically. The only way that occurs is if oil and natural gas prices increase tremendously and the national oil companies will prevent that from happening. Do you know the difference between national oil companies and the international oil companies. If not, I will give you an example. Petrobras is a national oil company (Brazil) which is getting support for offshore development from the Obama administration while Exxon is an international oil company as they have interests all over the world. It is more complex than that as Petrobras also operates certain fields in the Gulf of Mexico. . Regarding natural gas, an increase in it's usage would be one of the best things to happen to Louisiana. A large percentage of the shallow water (shelf) reserves in the Gulf of Mexico arenatural gas. It is a clean burning fuel and environmentally friendly. However, do you know how we get natural gas. The same way we get oil. we drill for it. Also, unlike the belief of people like Nancy Pelosi and the supposed genius Al Gore, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Both have said we need to get away from fossil fuel and move to energy sources like natural gas. Of course it is not a surprise when politicians show their technical ignorance. Natural gas is simply oil that has been impacted by varying temperatures and pressure. By the way do you have any technical knowledge of what is involved in exploring for and producing energy. Do you know what pore pressure is? Do you know what is involved in seismic interpretation. Do you have any idea what is involved with tertiary recovery or the economics businesses go through in making their investment decisions. If not, there are probably people here who would be willing to help educate you.

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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I do watch Fox and also CNN. Note, I said SOME in the media would focus on the folks outside the arena. Not all. As far as wishing the industry would go away, you are directly threatening my family and others when you say that. Now if you say the industry should continue to improve their environmental and safety record, I agree with that The bulk of the industry has made tremendous strides in this regard. BP is an unfortunate exception. As far as diversifying the economy most would also agree that is a good idea. Do you have any concrete and specific suggestions on how to do that. Your comment about south Louisiana being tied to Saudi Arabia is somewhat correct. However if the south Louisiana energy industry disappears, that only makes the rest of us more reliant on them. Look, the world needs a certain amount of energy to run. If it does not get it from here, it will get it somewhere. That somewhere will likely be in unstable places. Right now the world gets 75% of it's energy from fossil fuels. Desptie a massive effort to go to alternative energy, it will be at 70% in 20 years. None of the alternatives can compete economically. The only way that occurs is if oil and natural gas prices increase tremendously and the national oil companies will prevent that from happening. Do you know the difference between national oil companies and the international oil companies. If not, I will give you an example. Petrobras is a national oil company (Brazil) which is getting support for offshore development from the Obama administration while Exxon is an international oil company as they have interests all over the world. It is more complex than that as Petrobras also operates certain fields in the Gulf of Mexico. . Regarding natural gas, an increase in it's usage would be one of the best things to happen to Louisiana. A large percentage of the shallow water (shelf) reserves in the Gulf of Mexico is natural gas. It is a clean burning fuel and environmentally friendly. However, do you know how we get natural gas. The same way we get oil. we drill for it. Also, unlike the belief of people like Nancy Pelosi and the supposed genius Al Gore, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Both have said we need to get away from fossil fuel and move to energy sources like natural gas. Of course it is not a surprise when politicians show their technical ignorance. Natural gas simply oil that has been impacted by varying temperatures and pressure. By the way do you have any technical knowledge of what is involved in exploring for and producing energy. Do you know what pore pressure is? Do you know what is involved in seismic interpretation. Do you have any idea what is involved with tertiary recovery or the economics businesses go through in making their investment decisions. If not, there are probably people here who would be willing to help educate you. _

    wow...

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    I do not think people understand the potential impact this will soon have on the unimportant "Humans" in the state. These pathetic undeserving "Humans" will be negatively impacted for decades if the drilling ban/confusion does not end soon. Its all about the affect of the oil spill, for crying out loud, lets just close the state and run off the "Humans"; that ought to fix it.

    If something is not cleared up really soon, jobs will be gone for good, houses foreclosed upon, businesses closed, more businesses closed, then the businesses that supported those businesses will close.

    The scary thing to me is that our President either knows this or he does not, and I am not really sure which alternative scares me the most.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phant View Post
    _ I do not think people understand the potential impact this will soon have on the unimportant "Humans" in the state. These pathetic undeserving "Humans" will be negatively impacted for decades if the drilling ban/confusion does not end soon. Its all about the affect of the oil spill, for crying out loud, lets just close the state and run off the "Humans"; that ought to fix it.

    If something is not cleared up really soon, jobs will be gone for good, houses foreclosed upon, businesses closed, more businesses closed, then the businesses that supported those businesses will close.

    The scary thing to me is that our President either knows this or he does not, and I am not really sure which alternative scares me the most. _
    Phant, I'm sure some of these people will understand soon enough as state tax revenues are depleted, local projects are cut, schools reduce staffs, unemployment claims grow, the number of uninsured grow and homes are put on the market. But what the heck, I've got my job and we really don't need fossil fuels any longer, we have solar and wind. I wonder where I can pick up a large enough sail to attach to my vehicle? Does Ace Hardware sale those?

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    I compliment those who have put in the time and effort to organize this rally... and surely hope it has the intended impact, which is to get this stupid ban lifted. But we all know that there is ONE person who can get the ban lifted TODAY... and he COULDN'T CARE LESS about a few thousand people in south Louisiana getting together to chant against a drilling ban.

    I hope enough people out there are having voters remorse.


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    So who else is here in the dome?



    igeaux.mobi


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    _ It is interesting to me why this rally even exists. The moratorium was in response to the oil spill that is destroying the coastline and the entire ecosystem of the Gulf of Mexico. So it seems like some people here need to be reminded of cause and effect here. The rally at the Cajundome should be about the people telling corporate giants were tired of their carelessness. What? This is about the government? The government didn't cause the oil spill? Oh I get it, we like the corporate rigmarole. As long as it keeps money in our pockets. This is futility at it's finest. Kudos to the talking heads in Washington keeping the heat off of BP. Clutch!! No one really cares what BP is doing these days, the government is the big bad wolf and they are coming for your brick house. I have heard that "oil is a way of life" from so many people who work in the oil industry. No. Oil is a way of dependence for South Louisiana.

    If the oil industry dies in South Louisiana, South Louisiana dies with it. This is unacceptable. The moratorium is a perfect opportunity for Louisiana to step back and say what can we do to move forward here. You can't be a one trick pony when your pony isn't the best stallion in the stable. OPEC rules the international oil trade. Isn't that funny? Everyone that works in the oil industry in South Louisiana is dependent on guys in Saudi Arabia to keep them in work. Strange bedfellows? I say yes. I can talk until I am blue in the face and no one will listen. Louisiana's dependence on the black gold is going to ruin this state. Ask Detroit. So show up at the rally, rah rah against the big bad government but remember who you should be mad at. BP. They have singlehandedly destroyed the Gulf of Mexico. The government hasn't spilled a drop of oil. _

    You are correct. And, I doubt you'd find anybody out there that isn't agry with BP and its concerted efforts to entice contractors to cut corners and finish quickly by offering large bonuses to do so. There is not much of a debate there. However, the moratorium is quite frankly a knee jerk reaction that has been symbolic of the current administration. The moratorium unfavorably and illogically cast part of the blame on the oil field industry as a whole and that is not right. The moratorium was supposed to effect deep water operations ONLY but yet do you know any companies drilling in shallow waters that are currently operating or getting permits to do so? This doesn't just affect this state, it affects the southern region and beyond.

    The rally is in place to hopefully put pressure on Washington to lift the ban while still working out the various regulations they wish to enact. The industry has been around a lot longer than we have and while the current conditions are tragic, the industry should not be shut down while the government fumbles around for answers they don't know how to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRed View Post
    _ I compliment those who have put in the time and effort to organize this rally... and surely hope it has the intended impact, which is to get this stupid ban lifted. But we all know that there is ONE person who can get the ban lifted TODAY... and he COULDN'T CARE LESS about a few thousand people in south Louisiana getting together to chant against a drilling ban.

    I hope enough people out there are having voters remorse. _

    ditto.....

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