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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    _ ... and prepare Cajun fans with intelligent ammunition should the selection committee have a brain fart and screw up. _
    In the short list of 10 teams you would have in where in the pecking order do you have the cajuns. I would have them getting in fairly easily.

    Will you give us your top 10 soon. I would like to see how I did against the guru?

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    _ ... and prepare Cajun fans with intelligent ammunition should the selection committee have a brain fart and screw up. _
    Brian, I'm sure you've covered this before, but has the selection committee gotten any better than years past? I still cannot get over the questions Jay put to them a few years ago (I believe it was the Miss State guy) and watched them unable to deny the 8 very solid reasons the Cajuns were shafted. As I recall, you were the key contributor to Jay's list. I'm always concerned that with the Cajuns being in the SBC, in the south, where there are many, many programs with strong baseball... we are the likely ones to get screwed in the "subjective analysis". Bubble teams in areas of the country where baseball excellence isn't so dense, are the ones that worry me the most. I always expect the monster conferences to get an undeserving team or two in, but it's the large geographically disabled baseball areas that I look for unformula related gifting to occur. Is that your worry as well? Or, can we count on pure calculation more today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ Brian, I'm sure you've covered this before, but has the selection committee gotten any better than years past? I still cannot get over the questions Jay put to them a few years ago (I believe it was the Miss State guy) and watched them unable to deny the 8 very solid reasons the Cajuns were shafted. As I recall, you were the key contributor to Jay's list.
    Yes, Jay and I coordinated that before the conference. Jay's delivery was fantastic.

    My answer is that there are good years and there are bad years. But with more transparency (into their methods and the numbers they are using ... instead of us simply guessing at the numbers), it has become easier to pinpoint what they are going to do ... resulting in fewer surprises. Guessing at numbers was a problem in '06 for the Cajuns. Boyd had the Cajuns' RPI rank at 45 at selection time. But the official NCAA RPI (as I discovered later) was 53! So, instead of a 5 position differential with South Alabama, it was 16! We do not have this problem anymore. I have yet to have a Cajun RPI with Kislanko not match the NCAA report when it comes out.

    You also must understand that the makeup of the committee changes and this somewhat affects the selections. For example, as committee chair, no doubt Templeton influenced (even if only indirectly) some of those curious SEC picks of the past (which has now numbed us to teams finishing 9-16 in conference for 9th place in a 10 team conference ... making the field of 64). Tim Weiser stepped in last year and the Big XII gets an unprecedented 9 bids (including the aforementioned 9th place team).

    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I'm always concerned that with the Cajuns being in the SBC, in the south, where there are many, many programs with strong baseball... we are the likely ones to get screwed in the "subjective analysis". Bubble teams in areas of the country where baseball excellence isn't so dense, are the ones that worry me the most. I always expect the monster conferences to get an undeserving team or two in, but it's the large geographically disabled baseball areas that I look for unformula related gifting to occur. Is that your worry as well? Or, can we count on pure calculation more today? _
    This is not a concern of mine in the least.

    These folks do not want to get roasted when they answer to the media. They have become more dependent on the numbers than ever. This allows them an easy explanation and cover.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Town Cajun View Post
    _ In the short list of 10 teams you would have in where in the pecking order do you have the cajuns. I would have them getting in fairly easily.

    Will you give us your top 10 soon. I would like to see how I did against the guru? _
    This is going to take a while as I am compiling a tremendous amount of data. I will probably not sleep tonight.

    But I still do not quite have us as one of the last five teams in.

    Brian

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    _ Yes, Jay and I coordinated that before the conference. Jay's delivery was fantastic.

    My answer is that there are good years and there are bad years. But with more transparency (into their methods and the numbers they are using ... instead of us simply guessing at the numbers), it has become easier to pinpoint what they are going to do ... resulting in fewer surprises. Guessing at numbers was a problem in '06 for the Cajuns. Boyd had the Cajuns' RPI rank at 45 at selection time. But the official NCAA RPI (as I discovered later) was 53! So, instead of a 5 position differential with South Alabama, it was 16! We do not have this problem anymore. I have yet to have a Cajun RPI with Kislanko not match the NCAA report when it comes out.

    You also must understand that the makeup of the committee changes and this somewhat affects the selections. For example, as committee chair, no doubt Templeton influenced (even if only indirectly) some of those curious SEC picks of the past (which has now numbed us to teams finishing 9-16 in conference for 9th place in a 10 team conference ... making the field of 64). Tim Weiser stepped in last year and the Big XII gets an unprecedented 9 bids (including the aforementioned 9th place team).


    This is not a concern of mine in the least.

    These folks do not want to get roasted when they answer to the media. They have become more dependent on the numbers than ever. This allows them an easy explanation and cover.

    Brian _
    Thanks Brian.

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    Brian, I summerized the email i sent to you, and pm'd it to u


    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    _ This is going to take a while as I am compiling a tremendous amount of data. I will probably not sleep tonight.

    But I still do not quite have us as one of the last five teams in.

    Brian _

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneGolfin View Post
    _ This is going to take a while as I am compiling a tremendous amount of data. I will probably not sleep tonight.

    But I still do not quite have us as one of the last five teams in.

    Brian _
    In my quick reference (not nearly as in-depth as yours) I would have put UL as the 4th team getting in. No lower than the 6th. I feel pretty safe as you do. The only thing that scares me is if FIU were to lose and the NCAA were to chose FIU before UL because of Whittels hitting streak, FIU beating UL 2/3, and making the SBC finals. That said FIU is up 14-10 with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. Geaux Owls. Never taught I'd say that, I hate the Turtle!

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    You mean go Panthers, and they just won.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raginsaints View Post
    _ You mean go Panthers, and they just won. _
    You are right go Panthers. Too many beers over the past 2 days. Got the Florida schools mixed up.

    I think we are safe with 3 SBC teams getting into regionals. FIU, FAU, and UL.

    FIU getting in will bring media press coverage for the SBC.

    By the way FIU was my pick to win the tournament. You pitch to win the regular season and hit to win the tournament. FIU has the best hitting team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Town Cajun View Post
    FIU has the best hitting team.
    Clearly!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrepourciau View Post
    _ Clearly!!! _
    Did the kid keep his hitting streak going??????

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    UL Baseball Re: This is where the Cajuns find themselves ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Did the kid keep his hitting streak going??????
    Yes, he got at least 2 more base hits today last I had saw.

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