Four Days, Four Million

[Turbine]

If Congress can dictate when sports is played it can influence how cohorts get paid.

[tdncz]

Hey, I was listening to someone this morning talk about the way the Big10 structure these deals like employees, which is supposed to keep them from bolting. But they were saying if they structure the contracts the way they do, they will have to also offer them the same benefits as employees. I.E. health insurance, etc.

Whats the legalities there?

These athletes are already getting health care, "salary" (via the NIL collective thing), and other employee benefits so it does not seem to be much more burdensome if states have additional type requirements (what more must an employer offer in such circumstances? I am not an employment lawyer). That is why maybe a CBA for CFB (or just NCAA) Athletes might be A (not the only) valid solution.

[CajunVic]

I guess I missed one important element to my suggestion:
This would only pass LEGAL (not necessarily Constitutional) muster if CFB would initiate some sort of unionized employment system, and only then if collectively bargained (e.g., the NFL, NBA, etc. players associations)

Otherwise, NOT the U.S. Constitution, but Antitrust law, State and Federal Employment law- especially regarding government reluctance (or outright prohibition in some states) to enforce non-compete clauses would be the issue.
I am usually not one for unions, but a CFB CBA might just be the answer in this situation. Maybe the future CFB Commissioner (Nick Saban) will agree....

the main issue with attempting to cure NIL with mirroring or using contracts and bargaining agreements used in pro sports is that NIL is more akin to sponsorships - Ford, Gatoraid, Bank of America made in addition to the player contract - which all falls outside of the agreements now being referenced

if it was easy, things would be in place and practice by now, but it’s not even with all the brilliant people involved in the sports world - nobody has managed to figure it out

[ZoomZoom]

Key Characteristics of Big Ten NIL Contracts:
Anti-Transfer & Exclusivity: Standardized templates often bar athletes from using their NIL "in connection" with other colleges if they transfer, creating potential conflicts with the transfer portal.
Irrevocable Rights: Athletes grant schools irrevocable rights to their NIL, with provisions for compensation if they leave, as seen in recent high-profile cases.
Confidentiality: Some templates include strict confidentiality clauses, limiting how much athletes can discuss deal terms, impacting bargaining power.
Reporting & Compliance: Deals must be reported to the College Sports Commission (CSC) for evaluation, checking for valid business purposes and fair compensation.
Non-Employment Status: Contracts explicitly state athletes are not employees, maintaining their NCAA eligibility, though terms must be carefully negotiated.
Recent Developments & Implications:
Revenue Sharing Focus: The Big Ten is integrating NIL with revenue-sharing models, with schools committing significant amounts, largely benefiting football and basketball players.
Legal Challenges: The strict anti-transfer language is already leading to legal scrutiny, with questions about enforceability and potential lawsuits.
System Stabilization: The push for structured contracts aims to prevent chaos from players reneging on deals, ensuring financial commitments are honored.
In essence, Big Ten NIL contracts are evolving from simple endorsements to complex agreements tied to school revenue, balancing athlete compensation with institutional control, and creating a new legal and financial landscape in college sports.
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It’s interesting his first lawyer/agent dropped him like a bad habit. New lawyer meets with his advisors aka family and he comes home like a whipped puppy to UW.

That’s the part that angers me the most about NIL. Many of these players are carrying the weight of their families. Most who don’t realize this gravy train doesn’t last but a few years at best. The NFL isn’t happening for them, and momma has to blame someone.

[tdncz]

There are several valid solutions and they aren't hard to figure out. The reason this has not been fixed is based on a lack of leadership at the "NCAA" (or whatever will replace it) level.
As soon as a commissioner or a cfb czar, or a cfb rules committee - or whatever they decide to do re leadership is created , a valid solution will quickly follow

[CajunVic]

There are several valid solutions and they aren't hard to figure out. The reason this has not been fixed is based on a lack of leadership at the "NCAA" (or whatever will replace it) level.
As soon as a commissioner or a cfb czar, or a cfb rules committee - or whatever they decide to do re leadership is created , a valid solution will quickly follow

it has not been fixed by ALL of college football because there is no fix - way too many brilliant minds involved in all of college sports for a fix to not have been discovered,
arrived at or implemented after four years if there is really a fix out there . . .

[Turbine]

it has not been fixed by ALL of college football because there is no fix - way too many brilliant minds involved in all of college sports for a fix to not have been discovered,
arrived at or implemented after four years if there is really a fix out there . . .

Easily fixable "EASILY" but the ones who are reaping the players right now don't want it fixed. ... Not yet anyway.

[CajunVic]

Easily fixable "EASILY" but the ones who are reaping the players right now don't want it fixed. ... Not yet anyway.

funny how if it’s so easy, there has yet to be seen a legal proposed fix ANYWHERE by ANYBODY

[Turbine]

funny how if it’s so easy, there has yet to be seen a legal proposed fix ANYWHERE by ANYBODY

Dozens of proposals are out there. The big beneficiary teams don't see the need yet but wait till donor fatigue sets in. They will get something done.

My proposal is something like the SAG-AFTRA deal.

I call it TaG-FADE

Turf and Game - Field Advertising Delivery Enterprise.

While TaG-FADE may vary, SAG-AFTRA pays roughly $1000 dollars per day or $4,000 a week while performing multiple days.

Its been through the court system it seems to work. Not an exact model but a framework is there.

Scholarship value part of overall pay.

[MarlinMan3]

Remember when prop 48 first came out and you heard of so many players being academically ineligible. Now you almost never hear about players being academically ineligible. It is very clear test scores are way down, yet everyone in athletics are smarter? Hard to believe