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    It's very simple, last year was a Fluke. Des and his lack luster coaching staff is a joke. This season looks exactly like the first 2 seasons. I don't really care for Napier, but Levi finished every season. Under Des, that hasn't come close to happening.

    Fans are not going to support a loser, and this is exactly what we have. This community is tired and has had enough losers at UL and yet they (UL athletic administration) still can't understand why the attendance is so poor! (Bob Marlin ring a bell??)

    I don't know how this is going to turn around because the attendance was abysmal when the team was ranked in the top 25 a few years ago. Take a look at Grundy's firing. Most schools that care about their programs would not allow their coaching staffs to run their programs into the ground like UL has done repeatedly with football, basketball, baseball and who knows which program is next.


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    Default Re: Done with Des!

    Quote Originally Posted by GMG View Post
    It's very simple, last year was a Fluke. Des and his lack luster coaching staff is a joke. This season looks exactly like the first 2 seasons. I don't really care for Napier, but Levi finished every season. Under Des, that hasn't come close to happening.

    Fans are not going to support a loser, and this is exactly what we have. This community is tired and has had enough losers at UL and yet they (UL athletic administration) still can't understand why the attendance is so poor! (Bob Marlin ring a bell??)

    I don't know how this is going to turn around because the attendance was abysmal when the team was ranked in the top 25 a few years ago. Take a look at Grundy's firing. Most schools that care about their programs would not allow their coaching staffs to run their programs into the ground like UL has done repeatedly with football, basketball, baseball and who knows which program is next.
    Agree with you on last year being a fluke when you consider Coach Des had the benefit of two capable 5th year super Sr. QB's. Its a loser mentality to blame this year's problems solely on Howard going down the first game. Its a factor but so many other weaknesses are being exposed, too. With regards to attendance during Napier's tenure, we had COVID spreads in 20 & 21 our two Top 25 ranked seasons. We did draw 33K for the conference championship game when the last big spread, Omicron, was taking off. Its hard to say how much better attendance would have been if no pandemic, but no doubt the pandemic and government restrictions depressed attendance those two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisiana84 View Post
    This is a very unfortunate situation. When one makes $750,000 /year, managing unfortunate situations successfully tends to go with the job. Many Louisiana fans no longer donate, don't attend games, and rarely ever post anymore on this board. They've checked out.

    We see this athletic department as a mismanaged entity. When your $40 million dollar athletic department loses folks who have supported the programs for decades, it is indicative of a SYSTEMIC PROBLEM. We firmly believe that this is what is happening here at UL.

    State money and revenue sharing

    During the Hud/Napier years, it seemed we had, at long last, overcome those SYSTEMIC issues. I placed my faith in Dr. Maggard and gave him the credit for righting the wrongs. Our budget expanded. We were successful. Now, it seems like this business is failing.

    These financial issues are occurring against the backdrop of the current NIL challenges facing mid-majors who cannot afford to compete with the P4 schools. Revenue sharing is little more than bread crumbs being fed to schools who are being paid to KNOW THEIR PLACE.

    That money should help schools like ours, but we should understand what we are being paid to do. We are accepting money to be second class. We are accepting money to shut up and stay the hell out of the way.

    Don't worry about the government

    In a state like Louisiana, where politicians have historically fed one school with extravagance and profusion while the other institutions were forced to eat scraps like dogs, relying on the government is unacceptable.

    Rest assured this is not simply a Desmo problem. We can be "done with Des" but we really need to be done with WAY more than that. The future looks bleak for football at schools like ours. Des and his staff aren't the only ones who aren't getting it done.

    Look in the mirror

    We as fans aren't getting it done, either. Or we would have the NIL money we need to compete, to level the playing field, to pack the venues. 9 out of 10 posters on this board don't buy football season tickets. I get it. I quit buying them, too.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that it is because we all sense that there are SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS at Louisiana. More broadly, it is the fact that administration doesn't level with us. There's no transparency, no inclusion, and therefore, no buy in.

    Marketing 101

    Athletic marketing is creating a NEED for season tickets when none currently exists. Corporate sales are easy; engaging the rank and file is not. Why should we buy into something when we see no benefit?

    Three quarters of the seats in our stadium are unsold. Randos may buy game day tickets, but athletics depends on season ticket sales to project a budget.

    A smart business strategy would be to cut prices, reward customer loyalty, and better the product off-the-field until the product on the field catches up. A smart business would hire sales reps who can actually sell.

    The frustration is palpable

    A sales strategy that is persistent and flexible, establishing a base of customers who have a sense of ownership in the product is what we need. Connecting season ticket purchases to NIL donations is essential. Fans need to buy stock in this endeavor. They need to be contacted in person.

    We to be concerned with share of customer, not share of market. Someone ought to be talking to me about football season tickets when I am in the baseball park, selling me on basketball season tickets while I am at the softball game. Hitting me up at Legends, Yard Goat, or Adopted Dog makes sense. Go where the customers are. Don't expect them to wander into the business randomly; that will never happen.

    Hustle up and bustle up

    It doesn't seem like we have hungry business people involved. It's pretty clear we don't handle the business like we understand the potential, and there's plenty of blame to go around. Done with Des? I get it, but he's just a grain of sand on the beach. Louisiana doesn't act like it wants me, like it really, really wants me.

    Our product is currently too expensive in the marketplace. 50 customers paying $5 is the same money as 10 people paying $25. We have the capacity to bring those customers in. The more the merrier. The bar that's packed is the one with the line at the door.

    Louisiana is a tough sell when 6 tickets are $2400. Average Jims and Joes aren't going to buy that and they don't want a payment plan or another subscription that they will later cancel. 60 tickets for $240 is more like it in this market.

    Boudin is terrific, but if it costs $40 a link, no one will ever know just how good it is.
    GREAT WRITE. I especially like the idea of price of tickets. We’re not a white collar fan base. We need the below and middle class families to attend games, a family outing, made affordable. I bet the big donors want like it but, HELL, you’re paying for comfort and conveniences

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    Quote Originally Posted by USLJim View Post
    GREAT WRITE. I especially like the idea of price of tickets. We’re not a white collar fan base. We need the below and middle class families to attend games, a family outing, made affordable. I bet the big donors want like it but, HELL, you’re paying for comfort and conveniences
    My company gives away 100 tickets a week to the employees. Most weeks we have tickets that go unclaimed. It's not a price issue, the markets that have been built up around P4's have driven the average fan away from the G5.

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    Next year will be as bad or worse. This is a a senior heavy team. I'm not sure how we replace everything we are losing. Our backfield will be gone as well as many of our receivers and don't get me started on our defense. We will have trouble coming back from this.


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    This program was very enticing after Napier left . That’s when admin should have tried to get another one of the assistants with more experience . Now , it’s not so enticing anymore and it’ll be hard to get a good coach at a decent cost .


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    Quote Originally Posted by fpc4life99 View Post
    My company gives away 100 tickets a week to the employees. Most weeks we have tickets that go unclaimed. It's not a price issue, the markets that have been built up around P4's have driven the average fan away from the G5.
    Appreciate your company buying season tickets.

    Did they make a matching contribution to Krewe Allons? Do most of those tickets go unused?

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    ooh LA La. Re: Done with Des!

    Attendance won't be fixed.

    I had some friends come in town and I met them at The Yard Goat to watch LSU vs Florida. That bar/patio was loud, it was electric, it was rowdy -- it was an extension of what the LSU fan base is. My buddy said "man, it feels like we're in Tiger Stadium!"

    UL cannot match that excitement.

    Our games won't be mentioned on College GameDay. Our games won't make a difference in the national landscape. Our games might feature a handful of future NFL prospects at best. Its AA baseball.

    On top of that, the admin has made every move possible to discourage the rowdy/loud/rabid portion of our fanbase, and has instead geared everything toward the River Ranch crowd who are only there because they didnt get a ticket to something better.

    I'll never understand why a school named Louisiana Ragin Cajuns would ever willingly shy away from everything Louisiana, everything ragin', and everything cajun... but they did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxmc1023 View Post
    . . . .Our games won't be mentioned on College GameDay. Our games won't make a difference in the national landscape. Our games might feature a handful of future NFL prospects at best.
    All of that was literally true last year.

    I'll never understand why a school named Louisiana Ragin Cajuns would ever willingly shy away from everything Louisiana, everything ragin', and everything cajun... but they did.
    I agree with this.

  10. Default Re: Done with Des!

    Quote Originally Posted by Louisiana84 View Post

    Boudin is terrific, but if it costs $40 a link, no one will ever know just how good it is.
    This in a nutshell explains the value of why you make your product affordable to as wide a spectrum as possible.

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