PAC 12

[HoustonCajun]

...Could Alex and maybe the thib/Race/M city be taken in the mix?

Why not? Thib/Race/M City could more readily be considered part of CajunCountry.

[Turbine]

Why not? Thib/Race/M City could more readily be considered part of CajunCountry.

They are 100%

KATC marketing created that fracture.

[ULGrad@HOU]

We need an athletic department with a pulse. We can't even plan ahead for water at a hot football game.. Will never happen.

Agree, we are a poorly run Athletic Dept, when it comes to growth and national recognition, mainly by design of those above Dr. Maggard.

[Duckster]

I don't forsee Memphis, Tulane or USF in the Big 12 or the ACC. This is why they are considering the PAC membership today. They have been chasing the Big 12 dream for some time now.

There will be another split at the top 40 to 50 programs and they will have the highest TV Revenue package and their own playoff system. The rest will remain exactly where they are at today, or a in a conference with members like Oregon State and Washington State that will not make the Top 40 or 50. Moving conferences at that point will only become a schedule alliance because it doesn't achieve the goal of joining those programs that have split from the old P4 conferences for Football.

OK you're saying there will be a Top Tier 50 schools max. Then there will be a Middle Tier consisting of P4 has beens with a serving of high level G6ers, maybe three dozen or so schools, leaving another three dozen FBS schools looking up from the bottom of the barrel for eternity. We know with certainty UL and every other G6er is shut out of the future Power 50. Making the middle tier requires being proactive, now. A wait and see strategy results in a chronic crick in your neck from looking up all the time. If we look back over the past 15 years, UL deserves credit for being very proactive with multiple facility upgrades. The latest and largest one the new football stadium. We've come a long way. Time is right for next step up.

[HoustonCajun]

OK you're saying there will be a Top Tier 50 schools max. Then there will be a Middle Tier consisting of P4 has beens with a serving of high level G6ers, maybe three dozen or so schools, leaving another three dozen FBS schools looking up from the bottom of the barrel for eternity. We know with certainty UL and every other G6er is shut out of the future Power 50. Making the middle tier requires being proactive, now. A wait and see strategy results in a chronic crick in your neck from looking up all the time. If we look back over the past 15 years, UL deserves credit for being very proactive with multiple facility upgrades. The latest and largest one the new football stadium. We've come a long way. Time is right for next step up.

What conference would UL have a better chance of making that Middle Tier?

PAC 12 - Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, San Diego State, Utah State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Texas State, Louisiana

SBC - Troy, USA, ULM, Ark State, Louisiana, USM, Coastal, GA Southern, GA State, App State & Marshall

App State and Marshall would make it for sure and maybe ULM and Ark State. UL - maybe as part of that conference.

All of the PAC 12 would make it and if UL is in the PAC 12, they would be in.

[fanof71]

Not really...depends on your definition of what a market is...

[HoustonCajun]

What conference would UL have a better chance of making that Middle Tier?

PAC 12 - Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, San Diego State, Utah State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Texas State, Louisiana

SBC - Troy, USA, ULM, Ark State, Louisiana, USM, Coastal, GA Southern, GA State, App State & Marshall

App State and Marshall would make it for sure and maybe ULM and Ark State. UL - maybe as part of that conference.

All of the PAC 12 would make it and if UL is in the PAC 12, they would be in.

I meant USM and not ULM.

[Big Buds]

I meant USM and not ULM.

The PAC. Plus, the bowl tie-in’s alone would be a huge improvement.

[KajunKrazy]

The PAC 12 is reportedly finalizing a deal for $13.4M per team and is poised to invite Texas State. Other schools they are looking at are North Texas, Memphis and Tulane. UL is not mentioned. If UL was being considered, would $13.4M be enough additional revenue to make this move? How much additional revenue would UL have if it averaged 30,000 per game in football and over 8,000 in basketball? I doubt that we average 15,000 now, so that would be huge. Would a much better conference schedule improve attendance? How would this impact basketball attendance with our new coach. Gonzaga would be huge.

Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, Utah State, San Diego State, Colorado State, Gonzaga, Texas State, Louisiana

Should UL talk to Texas State and approach the PAC 12 as a travel partner for them. Travel to the West shouldn't be any more costly than travel to the East. Would this greatly change the perception of UL to the public? We have the academics and the facilities. If the PAC 12 was willing to go as far as New Orleans, Lafayette shoudn't be a problem. Can we sell ourselves to the PAC 12? Do we want to make such a move or maintain status quo? The future may not bring any other options.

13.4 million wouldn't scratch the surface of what travel cost would be to send all athletic teams out west. The only bus trip for non football sports would be Tx St. All others would be flights. Would break the department more than they already are.

[Turbine]

13.4 million wouldn't scratch the surface of what travel cost would be to send all athletic teams out west. The only bus trip for non football sports would be Tx St. All others would be flights. Would break the department more than they already are.

I don't believe your numbers on where the $13 mil would go, but even if true, a less absurd statement states that the current $2 mil doesn't even get Louisiana on the SBC bus.

And they own it.

[CajunNation]

Last time we talked about this, I believe 9 mill/yr was floated as being the target for a move to the PAC to make baseline financial sense.

[HoustonCajun]

13.4 million wouldn't scratch the surface of what travel cost would be to send all athletic teams out west. The only bus trip for non football sports would be Tx St. All others would be flights. Would break the department more than they already are.

No worse than travel to the Eastern Division teams in the SBC. And, what is our SBC revenue, $2-3M? Think also about increased attendance for a more attractive schedule that gets fans excited. More season ticket sales, higher game attendance, more game day revenue, better bowl games and a changed perception of UL. Have to look at the greater value and future benefits of a PAC 12 affiliation. Haven't even mentioned basketball. Ask the coaches what they would prefer. I'll bet they would prefer a PAC 12 affiliation.