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  1. Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    I thought that America is the land of promised diversity, equality, and inclusion. Historically, immigrants from all nations, religions, races, and difference of opinion have been welcomed, and all citizens are allowed to participate.

    Do you think we should change that? And if so, who would you want to exclude?
    I grew up in a place where there was great diversity of origin among the population; various areas of the State were settled by people from all over the world.

    Many of these people spoke their native language at home and kept the cultural traditions of their countries of origin. BUT, they also assimilated into the American culture and ethos, becoming part of the great melting pot which is the US.

    Without that assimilation, we would not have many of the cultural features that make us uniquely American. There would be no R & B, no Rock n Roll, no Rodeo, no Barbeque, no gumbo, no Cajun music, no Zydeco, no Tejano, no Country music, no Western Swing, no Bluegrass.

    Only in America could a native speaker of German command a navy at war with Germany. [Adm. Chester Nimitz] Only in America could a native speaker of Japanese receive the highest military honors while serving in an army at war with Japan [Sadao Munemori].

    I could go on forever, but I can make a very valid argument that the strength of the American Culture is not Diversity at all; it is the chaotic and innovative assimilation of originally diverse people and cultures into something that is both the same and wonderfully different from any other place in the world.

    In a single sentence: We invited anyone to come here [legally] NOT to be who they were before, but to be joyously welcomed to become one of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I grew up in a place where there was great diversity of origin among the population; various areas of the State were settled by people from all over the world.

    Many of these people spoke their native language at home and kept the cultural traditions of their countries of origin. BUT, they also assimilated into the American culture and ethos, becoming part of the great melting pot which is the US.

    Without that assimilation, we would not have many of the cultural features that make us uniquely American. There would be no R & B, no Rock n Roll, no Rodeo, no Barbeque, no gumbo, no Cajun music, no Zydeco, no Tejano, no Country music, no Western Swing, no Bluegrass.

    Only in America could a native speaker of German command a navy at war with Germany. [Adm. Chester Nimitz] Only in America could a native speaker of Japanese receive the highest military honors while serving in an army at war with Japan [Sadao Munemori].

    I could go on forever, but I can make a very valid argument that the strength of the American Culture is not Diversity at all; it is the chaotic and innovative assimilation of originally diverse people and cultures into something that is both the same and wonderfully different from any other place in the world.

    In a single sentence: We invited anyone to come here [legally] NOT to be who they were before, but to be joyously welcomed to become one of us.
    PERFECTLY STATED.

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    Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I grew up in a place where there was great diversity of origin among the population; various areas of the State were settled by people from all over the world.

    Many of these people spoke their native language at home and kept the cultural traditions of their countries of origin. BUT, they also assimilated into the American culture and ethos, becoming part of the great melting pot which is the US.

    Without that assimilation, we would not have many of the cultural features that make us uniquely American. There would be no R & B, no Rock n Roll, no Rodeo, no Barbeque, no gumbo, no Cajun music, no Zydeco, no Tejano, no Country music, no Western Swing, no Bluegrass.

    Only in America could a native speaker of German command a navy at war with Germany. [Adm. Chester Nimitz] Only in America could a native speaker of Japanese receive the highest military honors while serving in an army at war with Japan [Sadao Munemori].

    I could go on forever, but I can make a very valid argument that the strength of the American Culture is not Diversity at all; it is the chaotic and innovative assimilation of originally diverse people and cultures into something that is both the same and wonderfully different from any other place in the world.

    In a single sentence: We invited anyone to come here [legally] NOT to be who they were before, but to be joyously welcomed to become one of us.
    This right here!

  4. Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I grew up in a place where there was great diversity of origin among the population; various areas of the State were settled by people from all over the world.

    Many of these people spoke their native language at home and kept the cultural traditions of their countries of origin. BUT, they also assimilated into the American culture and ethos, becoming part of the great melting pot which is the US.

    Without that assimilation, we would not have many of the cultural features that make us uniquely American. There would be no R & B, no Rock n Roll, no Rodeo, no Barbeque, no gumbo, no Cajun music, no Zydeco, no Tejano, no Country music, no Western Swing, no Bluegrass.

    Only in America could a native speaker of German command a navy at war with Germany. [Adm. Chester Nimitz] Only in America could a native speaker of Japanese receive the highest military honors while serving in an army at war with Japan [Sadao Munemori].

    I could go on forever, but I can make a very valid argument that the strength of the American Culture is not Diversity at all; it is the chaotic and innovative assimilation of originally diverse people and cultures into something that is both the same and wonderfully different from any other place in the world.

    In a single sentence: We invited anyone to come here [legally] NOT to be who they were before, but to be joyously welcomed to become one of us.
    And all of this is possible because of the Constitution and the rule of law. The melting pot works its magic because of the security and confidence of the laws. Becoming American is real easy to do. All you have to do is follow our laws.

  5. Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Some of yall invoke the Constitution when it is convenient but do not seem to REALLY believe or agree in it. It is not a cafeteria plan.
    BTW my parents were so welcomed that their native language was beaten out of them. Forcing the populace to conform to the "national culture" is a very slippery, very dangerous slope.


  6. Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    You lost me at Jesuit.
    Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I grew up in a place where there was great diversity of origin among the population; various areas of the State were settled by people from all over the world.

    Many of these people spoke their native language at home and kept the cultural traditions of their countries of origin. BUT, they also assimilated into the American culture and ethos, becoming part of the great melting pot which is the US.

    Without that assimilation, we would not have many of the cultural features that make us uniquely American. There would be no R & B, no Rock n Roll, no Rodeo, no Barbeque, no gumbo, no Cajun music, no Zydeco, no Tejano, no Country music, no Western Swing, no Bluegrass.

    Only in America could a native speaker of German command a navy at war with Germany. [Adm. Chester Nimitz] Only in America could a native speaker of Japanese receive the highest military honors while serving in an army at war with Japan [Sadao Munemori].

    I could go on forever, but I can make a very valid argument that the strength of the American Culture is not Diversity at all; it is the chaotic and innovative assimilation of originally diverse people and cultures into something that is both the same and wonderfully different from any other place in the world.

    In a single sentence: We invited anyone to come here [legally] NOT to be who they were before, but to be joyously welcomed to become one of us.
    Well stated. DEI is bad for America and for our universities. Meritocracy is what is needed and, thankfully, President Trump is making that change. Universities will have to come on board or lose federal funding. Glad to see UL dropped the DEI department. Hope T-Joe doesn't do what Harvard did and keep it under a different name. If so, it will be exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    We went to UL at different times. When I was there, actively speaking up and participating in things like Free Speech Alley were considered an important part of education, and the administration was fierce in their defense of our rights.

    I have seen students protest over many things, some of which I did not agree with personally. But I am proud that our students protest, and I think that involvement with political and social issues is the difference between a University and a vo-tech education.

    I thought that was the way the Jesuits thought as well, and how they expect their students to think and act. I remember visiting Georgetown, and was surprised to see pro-choice student activists manning a table outside the Union. I asked them about it, they had a wealthy alumna who funded them. Georgetown wouldn't fund them, but it allowed them organize on campus and participate.

    Do you agree with that?

    Or did your faculty at Jesuit High teach you differently?
    …Hey Doc Fun…..is there another Blue Jay on here besides me?…..Ad MAJOREM DEI GLORIAM….. so following this motto, where does this place ideology of the subject? Oh sorry Gerry…..oh and do I remember the “End satisfying the means” debates ……inferiority replacing more talented because of quotas……hell yes debate it, but don’t force it!

    debates

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    Default Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    NVM


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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Doc, I was taught all about freedom of speech and healthy debate. I was also taught right from wrong, and dei is wrong for universities, businesses and this country. It was proven over the last 4 years.


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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Students, community members protest UL's closure of Office of Inclusion, other resources

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    …Hey Doc Fun…..is there another Blue Jay on here besides me?…..Ad MAJOREM DEI GLORIAM….. so following this motto, where does this place ideology of the subject? Oh sorry Gerry…..oh and do I remember the “End satisfying the means” debates ……inferiority replacing more talented because of quotas……hell yes debate it, but don’t force it!

    debates
    BOOMER! I thought you knew about me. Class of '79.

    AMDG

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