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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSID View Post
    I do think you are on to something here. Feels like we are getting closer to doing away with any academic requirements in D1 athletics than anything else.

    Best thing NCAA could do at this point is eliminate the term “student-athlete.”
    I've said that from the onset of NIL. Just do away with any requirements of having any of them attend classes, etc. The NCAA can establish 2 classifications. One is a student-athlete. You sign with the school and you get a full academic ride but you are not allowed to accept any NIL money. You are bound to stay 4 years and can transfer just 1 time. You have to sit out a full year if you do transfer but if you want to switch to the other classification, you have to sit out 2 years before you are eligible to play again. The other classification is NIL athlete. The school pays you a minimum wage established as per agreement between the NCAA, conferences and the agent associations. NIL athletes aren't required to attend classes, they are considered employees of the school. They sign yearly contracts and have 5 years to complete 4 years of full service. They are free to leave/transfer after completing their 1 year obligation with a particular school. Outside of the established minimum paid to them by the school, they receive as compensation whatever their agent is able to negotiate for them and whatever endorsement deal(s) he can get for them while they are playing. The school provides the NIL athletes with a medical plan in the event of an injury. Roster limits will established and it will be a set number of student-athletes and NIL athletes. This plan would be applicable to all sports.

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    I like that M.H.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hemphill View Post
    I've said that from the onset of NIL. Just do away with any requirements of having any of them attend classes, etc. The NCAA can establish 2 classifications. One is a student-athlete. You sign with the school and you get a full academic ride but you are not allowed to accept any NIL money. You are bound to stay 4 years and can transfer just 1 time. You have to sit out a full year if you do transfer but if you want to switch to the other classification, you have to sit out 2 years before you are eligible to play again. The other classification is NIL athlete. The school pays you a minimum wage established as per agreement between the NCAA, conferences and the agent associations. NIL athletes aren't required to attend classes, they are considered employees of the school. They sign yearly contracts and have 5 years to complete 4 years of full service. They are free to leave/transfer after completing their 1 year obligation with a particular school. Outside of the established minimum paid to them by the school, they receive as compensation whatever their agent is able to negotiate for them and whatever endorsement deal(s) he can get for them while they are playing. The school provides the NIL athletes with a medical plan in the event of an injury. Roster limits will established and it will be a set number of student-athletes and NIL athletes. This plan would be applicable to all sports.
    This is a common-sense approach, which means it obviously won’t be acceptable by the NCAA.

    Though this model would also be the end for schools like UL (and most others) competing at the highest level of college athletics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotHeeem View Post
    Been a fan for ages. It's aggravating to have fallen this much.
    Tell me you know nothing about softball without telling me you know nothing. Aly has been asked to bake a cake this season. But when Glasco left, the flour, the eggs, the milk and even the oven followed him over to Lubbock or left to go somewhere else. Aly is doing her best to bake the cake but it is hard to do not having the ingredients to do it. I do not want anyone to interpret this post as me throwing any shade on any of the young ladies on this years' roster. They compete on a daily basis and play their hearts out every game, but the reality is we just don't have the pitching depth or the power hitting that we have had in the past years. It's not Aly's fault nor is it any of the current players fault. NIL has absolutely ruined collegiate sports and in my opinion, you will never see UL be a consistent force on the national scene ever again. Because once a mid-major develops a player who becomes a force in the line-up, the P5 schools will take notice and come calling with an NIL offer that is too good for the player to pass up. I can't blame the player for leaving but its sucks for the UL's and Coach Aly's who suffer from not having the resources to retain the players that they developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hemphill View Post
    Tell me you know nothing about softball without telling me you know nothing. Aly has been asked to bake a cake this season. But when Glasco left, the flour, the eggs, the milk and even the oven followed him over to Lubbock or left to go somewhere else. Aly is doing her best to bake the cake but it is hard to do not having the ingredients to do it. I do not want anyone to interpret this post as me throwing any shade on any of the young ladies on this years' roster. They compete on a daily basis and play their hearts out every game, but the reality is we just don't have the pitching depth or the power hitting that we have had in the past years. It's not Aly's fault nor is it any of the current players fault. NIL has absolutely ruined collegiate sports and in my opinion, you will never see UL be a consistent force on the national scene ever again. Because once a mid-major develops a player who becomes a force in the line-up, the P5 schools will take notice and come calling with an NIL offer that is too good for the player to pass up. I can't blame the player for leaving but its sucks for the UL's and Coach Aly's who suffer from not having the resources to retain the players that they developed.
    Nothing but truth here. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I like that M.H.
    You really think that plan would help g5/mid majors?

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    Some clarity about the current rules regarding medical for athletes would be helpful


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSID View Post
    Nothing but truth here. Well said.
    Does this mean glasco in essence did more to burn the house down on the way out than lotief was accused of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hemphill View Post
    I've said that from the onset of NIL. Just do away with any requirements of having any of them attend classes, etc. The NCAA can establish 2 classifications. One is a student-athlete. You sign with the school and you get a full academic ride but you are not allowed to accept any NIL money. You are bound to stay 4 years and can transfer just 1 time. You have to sit out a full year if you do transfer but if you want to switch to the other classification, you have to sit out 2 years before you are eligible to play again. The other classification is NIL athlete. The school pays you a minimum wage established as per agreement between the NCAA, conferences and the agent associations. NIL athletes aren't required to attend classes, they are considered employees of the school. They sign yearly contracts and have 5 years to complete 4 years of full service. They are free to leave/transfer after completing their 1 year obligation with a particular school. Outside of the established minimum paid to them by the school, they receive as compensation whatever their agent is able to negotiate for them and whatever endorsement deal(s) he can get for them while they are playing. The school provides the NIL athletes with a medical plan in the event of an injury. Roster limits will established and it will be a set number of student-athletes and NIL athletes. This plan would be applicable to all sports.
    Could an initial hiring contract be enforced in which a departing coach who poaches his former players, owes compensation to his former school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Could an initial hiring contract be enforced in which a departing coach who poaches his former players, owes compensation to his former school?
    That is something recently brought up by retired coaches. Players sign contracts with buyouts that would be paid by new school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Does this mean Glasco in essence did more to burn the house down on the way out than Lotief was accused of?
    They both hurt the program on their way out, but Glasco did so more out of necessity while Lotief did so out of spite.

    Lotief was unemployed and just being hateful. Nothing would have made him happier than UL softball never seeing success again so he could claim the only reason the softball team was ever good was because of him.

    I can't really fault Glasco for wanting to build the best team he could at Texas Tech.

    While they both hurt the program, Glasco's actions were understandable while Lotief's were just petty and absolutely unnecessary. Big difference between the two.

    GEAUX CAJUNS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatestStory View Post
    They both hurt the program on their way out, but Glasco did so more out of necessity while Lotief did so out of spite.

    Lotief was unemployed and just being hateful. Nothing would have made him happier than UL softball never seeing success again so he could claim the only reason the softball team was ever good was because of him.

    I can't really fault Glasco for wanting to build the best team he could at Texas Tech.

    While they both hurt the program, Glasco's actions were understandable while Lotief's were just petty and absolutely unnecessary. Big difference between the two.

    GEAUX CAJUNS!
    Thank you for a well thought out answer. I tend to look more from a results perspective and we seem way worse now, but i appreciate your point of view.

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