Unfortunate end to life and legacy for Kyren Lacy

[MarlinMan3]

I would be careful about simply assuming him taking his own life was a result of his legal troubles. That's a whole other issue and for anybody who's had to deal with suicide, almost impossible to understand. I'm guessing his lawyer probably told him things were going to work out.

Thats a good point.... with millions in dollars of salaries to these coaches, makes me wonder where were they, what kind of leaders are they..... any squad leader, platoon cdr, division officer etc in military, receiving far less pay, if that happened to one of their troops would at a mininum be fired. Did they abandon him as soon as he left team for draft declaration or even if he had still been on team would they not have been there for him.... did any of them ask upon his arrival to practice that same day,.. how is your day? Anything interesting happen since i last saw you?

[MarlinMan3]

If she came up on gold truck so fast, how would gold truck have seen so much of what she was doing and known she was a problem ahead of time

[CharlieK]

What this whole thing shows me is the general public should avoid forming set opinions when they don’t nearly have all the facts. Lacy shouldn’t have been tried in the court of public opinion, and the state police should not have been condemned after a single presentation by a lawyer. Lawyers can make you think black is white if it serves their purpose. I recognize that there are bad actors in law enforcement, but a thorough investigation by multiple groups should occur before people out of the loop like us form opinions set in concrete.

What ends up happening is the natural inclination to have an opinion beforehand and choose the facts that fit it and ignore or poorly explain away the ones that don’t. It’s called confirmation bias.

One question I have not heard asked (maybe because I minimize thinking about stuff I don’t have all the facts on) is what would be the State Police’s motivation to frame Lacy? When they could have simply blamed it on the white car and moved on?

[cajuns80]

The woman who hit the oncoming vehicle would have done it whether Kyren was coming the other way, or not. She wasn't tailgating. If she had been, she'd have been doing 30 MPH. The data from her car shows she was doing 50 MPH until less than a second from impact. IOW she came up on the gold pick up truck while diddling with her cell phone & eating funyuns out of her lap & realized she was about to crash into the back of a pick up truck & swerved into the other lane & struck the other vehicle head on. Lacy could have been doing monkey flips in his car behind that scene & it wouldn't have made one bit of difference. This lady struck that car & killed & hurt those people because she had no idea what was going on outside of her own little world until she looked up & saw the back end of that pick up truck doing 30 MPH While she was doing 50 MPH. That's it. There's nothing sinister, or earth shattering about this accident. They happen every day with distracted drivers.

The idea that anyone else caused this is what all the unnecessary hullabloo is all about. And I can't believe the LSP continue to push this narrative when they know better.

It's all assumptions. The only thing that is a fact is that the gold truck started to slow BECAUSE he saw the charger's actions.

[Turbine]

I don't think for one second they we're trying to 'frame' Lacy.

It is however the nature of their job to form opinions on the spot often with the help of eyewitness.

If it were not they would never be able to hand out tickets.

That doesn't mean they are always correct.

[CharlieK]

I don't think for one second they we're trying to 'frame' Lacy.

It is however the nature of their job to form opinions on the spot often with the help of eyewitness.

If it were not they would never be able to hand out tickets.

That doesn't mean they are always correct.

But sticking with that initial opinion come hell or high water is tantamount to framing.

[Turbine]

But sticking with that initial opinion come hell or high water is tantamount to framing.

Perhaps but I have never heard of an officer going into court and say he was wrong for giving out a ticket.

I'm sure it happens, but I am unaware.

Video evidence may be the exception.

[CharlieK]

Perhaps but I have never heard of an officer going into court and say he was wrong for giving out a ticket.

I'm sure it happens, but I am unaware.

Video evidence may be the exception.

Turbine the point is if he didn’t cause it they had to make their own jobs harder and expose themselves to backlash because he is locally famous. Why do that?

[MarlinMan3]

Turbine the point is if he didn’t cause it they had to make their own jobs harder and expose themselves to backlash because he is locally famous. Why do that?

When did they know it was him? Seems most of the decisions/reports were made before the charger was located

[Turbine]

Turbine the point is if he didn’t cause it they had to make their own jobs harder and expose themselves to backlash because he is locally famous. Why do that?

Pride