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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    Well the only 5th year starters recruited under Des would be transfers and I know there are some. And of all the starters recruited under Napier, how many were actually recruited by Des?

    I don’t see a recruiting issue. We might lose potential recruits that we wouldn’t have before nil. Just like we might lose some transfers now as well.
    Never mentioned it was right? Boomer brought it up. We will learn how well he and his staff have recruited next season when a number of his recruits will have key positions. I have discussed his recruiting over the last few years, the last two have been pretty good.JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Never mentioned it was right? Boomer brought it up. We will learn how well he and his staff have recruited next season when a number of his recruits will have key positions. I have discussed his recruiting over the last few years, the last two have been pretty good.JMO
    I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. Just pointing out Des has his hand in a lot of the recruiting on the field right now. After 2 down years with napiers recruits I’m not giving him any credit now that Des has turned this ship around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    Lewis was better at broken plays. Ben is better at making sure there are minimal broken plays.
    Levi also had as many as 4 current NFL linemen (3 current NFL starters) blocking for him

    That along with his mobility allowed for some nice free lancing

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    Quote Originally Posted by facelessjonmoon View Post
    Levi also had as many as 4 current NFL linemen (3 current NFL starters) blocking for him

    That along with his mobility allowed for some nice free lancing
    Those lineman and some absolute stud RBs also helped Napier’s play calling.

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    It's so weird hearing people rip Napier. Like, I get that you're upset how things happened when he left, but it's a business. Adapt or die. But all this denigrating Napier . . . the coach that brought us the greatest stretch of success this program has ever seen. . . by a long shot . . . was just . . . LUCKY???? LoL! FFS! I've heard it all, now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBug58 View Post
    Is there any way to get Ben one more year? Can we get him on the “Justin Venable” program?
    I'd rather him finish this season healthy than the alternative that would get him that
    JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    It's so weird hearing people rip Napier. Like, I get that you're upset how things happened when he left, but it's a business. Adapt or die. But all this denigrating Napier . . . the coach that brought us the greatest stretch of success this program has ever seen. . . by a long shot . . . was just . . . LUCKY???? LoL! FFS! I've heard it all, now.
    you have now become the funniest jeweler in town . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    It's so weird hearing people rip Napier. Like, I get that you're upset how things happened when he left, but it's a business. Adapt or die. But all this denigrating Napier . . . the coach that brought us the greatest stretch of success this program has ever seen. . . by a long shot . . . was just . . . LUCKY???? LoL! FFS! I've heard it all, now.
    Odd twist isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    It's so weird hearing people rip Napier. Like, I get that you're upset how things happened when he left, but it's a business. Adapt or die. But all this denigrating Napier . . . the coach that brought us the greatest stretch of success this program has ever seen. . . by a long shot . . . was just . . . LUCKY???? LoL! FFS! I've heard it all, now.
    Nobody said he was “just” lucky. But you are just not remembering those years accurately if you don’t remember many questionable in game decisions and lucky bounces that went our (and his) way during that run. Napier to date is our best coach ever, and it’s not even close. But he wasn’t perfect, and was DEFINITELY the recipient of more than his share of good fortune during our two year run.

    Dez is a better offensive coach than Napier. Remains to be seen if he develops into a better overall program manager. Napier was a genius at that.

    So let me get the forum rules straight….we can run down the current coach in the middle of a 7-1 start, but even suggesting the former coach wasn’t perfect is “ripping” him?

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    Its not a "forum rules" thing, its an individual recollection perception thing.

    My recall is that Napier had to gamble a lot on 4th down because of how often he failed to get the 10 yards in 3 downs.

    Without those successful 4th down conversions, we are telling a very different Napier story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Its not a "forum rules" thing, its an individual recollection perception thing.

    My recall is that Napier had to gamble a lot on 4th down because of how often he failed to get the 10 yards in 3 downs.

    Without those successful 4th down conversions, we are telling a very different Napier story.
    We won at least one (maybe 2?) game when inferior teams missed chip shot field goals. We very nearly lost to a FCS school. We converted several 4th downs at field position locations where failing would have been catastrophic. Napier was the recipient of very good fortune during that stretch. He was ALSO a fantastic coach, clearly our best ever. Amazingly both things can be true at the same time.

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    If Napier was such the messiah, why didn’t we give unbridled support for Des from the beginning as Des was strongly recommend by Napier to succeed him . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    If Napier was such the messiah, why didn’t we give unbridled support for Des from the beginning as Des was strongly recommend by Napier to succeed him . . .
    Because he was in the process of 4th and gone while reccommending someone he himself didn't have confidence in to call plays to be the next coach.

    His poaching shows he didn't have the schools best interest at heart during that window of departure .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    We won at least one (maybe 2?) game when inferior teams missed chip shot field goals. We very nearly lost to a FCS school. We converted several 4th downs at field position locations where failing would have been catastrophic. Napier was the recipient of very good fortune during that stretch. He was ALSO a fantastic coach, clearly our best ever. Amazingly both things can be true at the same time.
    You are correct (again) both are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Because he was in the process of 4th and gone while reccommending someone he himself didn't have confidence in to call plays to be the next coach.

    His poaching shows he didn't have the schools best interest at heart during that window of departure .
    Wait, he didn’t have confidence . . . he is at an unlimited financial resources university where he can buy the best play caller in the country and his sorry ass play calling is still going on . . . you can come here with a straight face and posit that position . . . c’mon man

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