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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    The perfect play call won’t work if a block is missed or a bad pass is thrown or good pass is dropped(twice by the same receiver Tuesday)
    This is a great point. I’m sure part of it is just rose colored glasses from being 7-1, but to me, Des has our guys in a position to succeed at a much higher rate than in his first 2 seasons. On a lot of the drives that stall out or only result in 3, you can point to key mistakes. The drop on 4th and 5, Ben missing his check down in Zylan wide open and throwing a ball to a tight window in the end zone, careless penalties, etc. Admittedly on some drives and even some plays it’s a combination of lack of execution and bad (IMO) playcalling. One example from Tuesday was the 50/50 ball we tried to throw on 1st and 10 from the 18. That’s a low percentage, all or nothing play that puts you in 2nd and long if unsuccessful. Didn’t like the call and to make it worse we had a miscommunication on the route. Then shoot ourselves in the foot with back to back penalties. Thankfully, we have Kenny.

    I would imagine some of the criticism with the playcalling from Tuesday has to do with how conservative we were and constantly trying to establish the run. While it was frustrating to watch, I think the strategy largely accomplished what it seemed intended to do, stop Texas State from pinning their ears back and getting free hits on Ben all night long. I believe we were only sacked once, and keeping Texas State honest and having to account for the run had something to do with that, especially after they got burned on the 3rd and 10 run (quintessential veteran play by Ben). It was not pretty to watch, and there is plenty of room for improvement. I still think the improvement we have made in all areas (including Des’ playcalling) is easily apparent.

  2. #392

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    This is a great point. I’m sure part of it is just rose colored glasses from being 7-1, but to me, Des has our guys in a position to succeed at a much higher rate than in his first 2 seasons. On a lot of the drives that stall out or only result in 3, you can point to key mistakes. The drop on 4th and 5, Ben missing his check down in Zylan wide open and throwing a ball to a tight window in the end zone, careless penalties, etc. Admittedly on some drives and even some plays it’s a combination of lack of execution and bad (IMO) playcalling. One example from Tuesday was the 50/50 ball we tried to throw on 1st and 10 from the 18. That’s a low percentage, all or nothing play that puts you in 2nd and long if unsuccessful. Didn’t like the call and to make it worse we had a miscommunication on the route. Then shoot ourselves in the foot with back to back penalties. Thankfully, we have Kenny.

    I would imagine some of the criticism with the playcalling from Tuesday has to do with how conservative we were and constantly trying to establish the run. While it was frustrating to watch, I think the strategy largely accomplished what it seemed intended to do, stop Texas State from pinning their ears back and getting free hits on Ben all night long. I believe we were only sacked once, and keeping Texas State honest and having to account for the run had something to do with that, especially after they got burned on the 3rd and 10 run (quintessential veteran play by Ben). It was not pretty to watch, and there is plenty of room for improvement. I still think the improvement we have made in all areas (including Des’ playcalling) is easily apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    This is a great point. I’m sure part of it is just rose colored glasses from being 7-1, but to me, Des has our guys in a position to succeed at a much higher rate than in his first 2 seasons. On a lot of the drives that stall out or only result in 3, you can point to key mistakes. The drop on 4th and 5, Ben missing his check down in Zylan wide open and throwing a ball to a tight window in the end zone, careless penalties, etc. Admittedly on some drives and even some plays it’s a combination of lack of execution and bad (IMO) playcalling. One example from Tuesday was the 50/50 ball we tried to throw on 1st and 10 from the 18. That’s a low percentage, all or nothing play that puts you in 2nd and long if unsuccessful. Didn’t like the call and to make it worse we had a miscommunication on the route. Then shoot ourselves in the foot with back to back penalties. Thankfully, we have Kenny.

    I would imagine some of the criticism with the playcalling from Tuesday has to do with how conservative we were and constantly trying to establish the run. While it was frustrating to watch, I think the strategy largely accomplished what it seemed intended to do, stop Texas State from pinning their ears back and getting free hits on Ben all night long. I believe we were only sacked once, and keeping Texas State honest and having to account for the run had something to do with that, especially after they got burned on the 3rd and 10 run (quintessential veteran play by Ben). It was not pretty to watch, and there is plenty of room for improvement. I still think the improvement we have made in all areas (including Des’ playcalling) is easily apparent.
    1 sack and it was on a naked boot where the end isn’t blocked by design. He just got to Ben before Ben could turn and throw.

  4. #394

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    1 sack and it was on a naked boot where the end isn’t blocked by design. He just got to Ben before Ben could turn and throw.
    Yes, they run it quite often. But do you run it inside the 15 yard-line after losing yardage on first down, and against one of the league's top DL in sacks? Why not chip him with the back? While they run it often, any defensive edge player that pays attention in the film room has keys to look for. So, the timing is questionable for me in that possession.

  5. #395

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    The sack was on 2nd down coming out of halftime. Tuesday


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  8. #398

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    Ironically I think Ben checked to that run on that play.
    He did check out of the play. Once he saw the safety move up in the box the mismatch was to the right side of the line and Washington made a guy miss and it was off to the races.

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    Default Re: LGT Final: Louisiana 23, Texas State 17

    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    This is a great point. I’m sure part of it is just rose colored glasses from being 7-1, but to me, Des has our guys in a position to succeed at a much higher rate than in his first 2 seasons. On a lot of the drives that stall out or only result in 3, you can point to key mistakes. The drop on 4th and 5, Ben missing his check down in Zylan wide open and throwing a ball to a tight window in the end zone, careless penalties, etc. Admittedly on some drives and even some plays it’s a combination of lack of execution and bad (IMO) playcalling. One example from Tuesday was the 50/50 ball we tried to throw on 1st and 10 from the 18. That’s a low percentage, all or nothing play that puts you in 2nd and long if unsuccessful. Didn’t like the call and to make it worse we had a miscommunication on the route. Then shoot ourselves in the foot with back to back penalties. Thankfully, we have Kenny.

    I would imagine some of the criticism with the playcalling from Tuesday has to do with how conservative we were and constantly trying to establish the run. While it was frustrating to watch, I think the strategy largely accomplished what it seemed intended to do, stop Texas State from pinning their ears back and getting free hits on Ben all night long. I believe we were only sacked once, and keeping Texas State honest and having to account for the run had something to do with that, especially after they got burned on the 3rd and 10 run (quintessential veteran play by Ben). It was not pretty to watch, and there is plenty of room for improvement. I still think the improvement we have made in all areas (including Des’ playcalling) is easily apparent.
    It was the actual run plays that were called which was the problem. We consistently get stuffed when we try to run the ball wide on the zone stretch.

    We consistently maul people when we run out of the pistol between the tackles.

    The passing game with the exception of a few plays was pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    The sack was on 2nd down coming out of halftime. Tuesday
    Yes, the first possession after half, Davis ran for 3 yrds and they then ran the naked boot not blocking Joshua Parker, one of the top sack leaders in the SBC this season. I'm certain he would say we ran it a few times before in the first half and had success. But situational play calling and personal is my question. You have to know where that guy is lined up.

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