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  1. #361

    Default Re: Live Game Talk Final: Louisiana 23, Texas State 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    You get so offended that someone doesn’t follow your opinion. It’s honestly pretty hilarious how serious you take this.
    What part of any of my posts make me seem offended? I just disagree with you. Can you not handle that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    and we keep forgetting that Des had to also deal with NIL and free transfer that Napier did not. Those are huge changes in circumstances especially with a fan base and financial supporting base that had been so anti NIL.

    Billy was way more lucky than good all around (and that is being confirmed in Florida) and Des is way more unlucky than bad all around.
    Very good point

  3. #363

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Mutually exclusive? no.

    Napier didn't allow anything on Desormeaux's resume that legitimatly touted or showcased his ability.

    All we were left with was a 'because I said so' recommendation on what you need.

    While at the same time, taking players because this is what I need.

    Napier lacked credibility at that point in time.
    That’s an entirely different take. You were saying before that because Napier never let him call plays, that means he didn’t think he was good enough to call plays, therefore he wasn’t good enough to be head coach.


    Again, I thought originally it was too soon for him. But I’m not going to let that past belief color how I see this year’s performance.

  4. #364

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Isn’t that kind of what’s going on with Dez right now? He’s becoming more successful, but TxSt was probably his worst called game of the season as a whole. That and USM.

    But we are still finding ways to win and that’s all that matters.

    I agree, I like this scheme better than Napiers. Also like the areas of the game that Wooldridge brings that Lewis never could do.

    Just keep winning and hope for some help so we can play Penn St in the CFP.
    What makes you say it was the worst called game? I’m not disagreeing with you, just curious about your analysis. There were definitely a few play calls that in my amateur opinion seemed ill advised. But I’ve thought that watching most football games my whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob81 View Post
    The perfect play call won’t work if a block is missed or a bad pass is thrown or good pass is dropped(twice by the same receiver Tuesday)
    That’s usually where I stand. Most of us are just not knowledgeable enough about what we are watching to pick out in real time if a play failed because of the call, or the read, or the execution. Unless there is a clear case like a drop or badly missed tackle. I’d bet some pla calls we thought were bad, if we looked at in slow motion with more knowledge of the big picture we would see were not so bad. And some ____ calls that worked out due to athleticism or luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    That’s an entirely different take. You were saying before that because Napier never let him call plays, that means he didn’t think he was good enough to call plays, therefore he wasn’t good enough to be head coach.


    Again, I thought originally it was too soon for him. But I’m not going to let that past belief color how I see this year’s performance.
    Napier never let him call plays. The very job the traditionally assigned to the offensive coordinator. Even by some of the best offensive minds to ever coach the game.

    That means he didn’t think he was either not good enough to call plays, or not as good as me, therefore it is a stretch jump recomendation since he is openly reccomending someone he believes is not as good as himself.

    Because of the Napier handcuffs, we will never know how much worse than himself he thought Desormeaux actually was.

    In effect Napier was saying: "He's not good enough for me, but he's good enough for you."

    Not diametrically opposed, its just UL had an unknown unknown on its hands.

  7. #367

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    and we keep forgetting that Des had to also deal with NIL and free transfer that Napier did not. Those are huge changes in circumstances especially with a fan base and financial supporting base that had been so anti NIL.

    Billy was way more lucky than good all around (and that is being confirmed in Florida) and Des is way more unlucky than bad all around.

    There, I said it . . .
    I'm going to hold off my judgement of Billy at Florida until next year only because Dan Mullen left the cupboard very bare down there by burning bridges with many local Florida high schools that Billy had to go and make amends with. I personally think he will get another year to prove himself, but next year it's win or go home for him.

    But I will say that I agree with you in the fact that Des and company have done a very good job creating a culture of retention in the NIL world compared to other G5 schools, and that has showed so far this season with the number of players we have been able to keep around and win with. But I also think those close losses also turned into learning experiences on how to handle close games this season as well whether it is a play call or handling personel.

    The good news with Des is he still has a ton of upside.

  8. #368

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    What makes you say it was the worst called game? I’m not disagreeing with you, just curious about your analysis. There were definitely a few play calls that in my amateur opinion seemed ill advised. But I’ve thought that watching most football games my whole life.
    Mainly the running game. Several stretch plays were called that resulted in minimal or negative results. When we ran out of the pistol straight at the defense we gashed them. Part of that was blocking schemes and matchups. We failed to take advantage of what was working.

    Passing game, was pretty good. It’s harder to tell on TV when you can’t see the entire field. Some could be Woolridge, a few were just not good calls. Overall the passing game was good.

    Regardless, the argument of Napier this vs Dez that is pointless.

    Keep winning and vie for the CFP slot.

  9. #369

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Mainly the running game. Several stretch plays were called that resulted in minimal or negative results. When we ran out of the pistol straight at the defense we gashed them. Part of that was blocking schemes and matchups. We failed to take advantage of what was working.

    Passing game, was pretty good. It’s harder to tell on TV when you can’t see the entire field. Some could be Woolridge, a few were just not good calls. Overall the passing game was good.

    Regardless, the argument of Napier this vs Dez that is pointless.

    Keep winning and vie for the CFP slot.
    So hard now because the QBs have freedom to change and so many pre and post snap reads. Hard to tell, at least for me, when it’s a bad play call or a bad pre or post snap read.

  10. #370

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Napier never let him call plays. The very job the traditionally assigned to the offensive coordinator. Even by some of the best offensive minds to ever coach the game.

    That means he didn’t think he was either not good enough to call plays, or not as good as me, therefore it is a stretch jump recomendation since he is openly reccomending someone he believes is not as good as himself.

    Because of the Napier handcuffs, we will never know how much worse than himself he thought Desormeaux actually was.

    In effect Napier was saying: "He's not good enough for me, but he's good enough for you."

    Not diametrically opposed, its just we had an unknown unkown on our hands.
    Napier calls plays NOW when he could hire a millionaire OC. That’s just a bad take.

    Is it not possible Napier is just a micromanager on offense? I mean there is a lot more evidence of that, then your conjecture.

  11. #371

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    What part of any of my posts make me seem offended? I just disagree with you. Can you not handle that?
    “Give me a break.” Thats a disregard of what someone else thinks. Which is why I said “we won’t agree and that’s fine.”

    Enjoy your day.

  12. #372

    Default Re: Live Game Talk Final: Louisiana 23, Texas State 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    “Give me a break.” Thats a disregard of what someone else thinks. Which is why I said “we won’t agree and that’s fine.”

    Enjoy your day.
    lol, it’s a figure of speech.

    You too sir, hopefully nobody lets a fan board affect their day.

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