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  1. Default Re: Louisiana Student Enrollment 1901-2023

    Does UL wave out of state tuition fees for legacy generational sudents?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    It peaked with Brian Mitchell.

    Peaked again the year following Jake Delhommes run.

    Dropped off considerably during Baldwin's tenure.

    Peaked again with Jerry Babb and Bustle's bus tour.

    Peaked again while Hudspeth was winning.

    Napier no effect.

    Desormeaux declined overall but not with freshmen.
    Are you looking at enrollment, or attendance?

    We want to be careful to keep things in context, and look at the big picture. In the past couple of decades:

    1. We built a community college system in the region, which pulled down our enrollment.

    2. We implemented increasingly higher enrollment standards, which pulled down our enrollment.

    3. College tuitions have increased more than an order of magnitude, which pulled down our enrollment.

    And yet:

    1. Our enrollment is still growing... to the point that we can't handle more freshmen (we had to rent some hotels, remember?)

    2. The quality of our students is climbing steadily.

    3. Our governmental support is skyrocketing.

    4. We made R1.

    5. Our research funding is growing faster than almost anyone else in the country, and we are now the research leader among Louisiana public universities (yes, including LSU).

    6. Our graduate programs are growing quickly, and we're closing in on SREB Doctoral 1.

    7. Our campus, including our athletics facilities, is expanding and improving constantly.

    8. Our athletics programs reach the top 25 more and more frequently.

    9. And somehow, out of the blue, our conference jumped from the dregs of Division 1, to the top of the midmajors.

    There are only 2 public universities in the state that are in a solid financial situation: Louisiana, and LSU.

    Again, keep things in context. We have been building this University for over 125 years. And as I have noted before, we have slowly outpaced all the schools that were once our peers, and rivals. We did all of that with vision, hard work, and patience.

    And we ain't through, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Does UL wave out of state tuition fees for legacy generational sudents?
    Yes. Children of grads. Not grandchildren. Rats for one of my kids. Miss St.
    Also UL, like most schools, give active duty folks in state tuition. Miss St gives dependents of any active duty parents in state tuition. We should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Are you looking at enrollment, or attendance?

    We want to be careful to keep things in context, and look at the big picture. In the past couple of decades:

    1. We built a community college system in the region, which pulled down our enrollment.

    2. We implemented increasingly higher enrollment standards, which pulled down our enrollment.

    3. College tuitions have increased more than an order of magnitude, which pulled down our enrollment.

    And yet:

    1. Our enrollment is still growing... to the point that we can't handle more freshmen (we had to rent some hotels, remember?)

    2. The quality of our students is climbing steadily.

    3. Our governmental support is skyrocketing.

    4. We made R1.

    5. Our research funding is growing faster than almost anyone else in the country, and we are now the research leader among Louisiana public universities (yes, including LSU).

    6. Our graduate programs are growing quickly, and we're closing in on SREB Doctoral 1.

    7. Our campus, including our athletics facilities, is expanding and improving constantly.

    8. Our athletics programs reach the top 25 more and more frequently.

    9. And somehow, out of the blue, our conference jumped from the dregs of Division 1, to the top of the midmajors.

    There are only 2 public universities in the state that are in a solid financial situation: Louisiana, and LSU.

    Again, keep things in context. We have been building this University for over 125 years. And as I have noted before, we have slowly outpaced all the schools that were once our peers, and rivals. We did all of that with vision, hard work, and patience.

    And we ain't through, yet.
    Great points!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Is admissions selecting the wrong people??? Or is our school as an R1 harder than the kids expected
    Honestly, I think it comes down to students not being prepared and/or ready for college/college life. You can be a great student in high school, come to college and experience the freedom, nightlife, and studies get derailed. In some cases I think students aren't ready for the pace of college when compared to high school and they struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Is admissions selecting the wrong people??? Or is our school as an R1 harder than the kids expected
    Don't forget, we are near the top, or at the top, of all US universities for diversity (race, nationality, income, et al.), inclusion, and 1st family members to attend college.

    And don't forget that some of our kids work one or more jobs to be able to cover tuition. A number of those students are parents with kids, sometimes single parents.

    And then don't forget that we try to maintain our academic standards in the face of declining standards nationally.

    Retention will always be a problem if we are trying to do it right, if we are trying to give everyone a chance, but still insisting on excellence. Low retention should only be a problem if we are failing to offer our kids the support they need to pass their classes.

  7. Default Re: New Student Data

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Are you looking at enrollment, or attendance?
    Enrollment left column.

    Degree seekers.

    I don't think non-degree seeks are ever going to affect attendance

  8. Default Re: New Student Data

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Are you looking at enrollment, or attendance?

    We want to be careful to keep things in context, and look at the big picture. In the past couple of decades:

    1. We built a community college system in the region, which pulled down our enrollment.

    2. We implemented increasingly higher enrollment standards, which pulled down our enrollment.

    3. College tuitions have increased more than an order of magnitude, which pulled down our enrollment.

    And yet:

    1. Our enrollment is still growing... to the point that we can't handle more freshmen (we had to rent some hotels, remember?)

    2. The quality of our students is climbing steadily.

    3. Our governmental support is skyrocketing.

    4. We made R1.

    5. Our research funding is growing faster than almost anyone else in the country, and we are now the research leader among Louisiana public universities (yes, including LSU).

    6. Our graduate programs are growing quickly, and we're closing in on SREB Doctoral 1.

    7. Our campus, including our athletics facilities, is expanding and improving constantly.

    8. Our athletics programs reach the top 25 more and more frequently.

    9. And somehow, out of the blue, our conference jumped from the dregs of Division 1, to the top of the midmajors.

    There are only 2 public universities in the state that are in a solid financial situation: Louisiana, and LSU.

    Again, keep things in context. We have been building this University for over 125 years. And as I have noted before, we have slowly outpaced all the schools that were once our peers, and rivals. We did all of that with vision, hard work, and patience.

    And we ain't through, yet.
    ….Hey Doc Fun …..thought of maybe borrowing a Greenie plan….the neighbors of Tulane’s campus are upset with the “doubles to dorms” happening there…..some say a scheme to get jocks in houses close to campus….Lets buy up all the houses from our main campus to the closest part of the remaining areas…..also a track for our Cajun Tram!!!……btw can somebody put the map of our needed areas of planning?

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    Default Re: Louisiana Student Enrollment 1901-2023

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Don't forget, we are near the top, or at the top, of all US universities for diversity (race, nationality, income, et al.), inclusion, and 1st family members to attend college.

    And don't forget that some of our kids work one or more jobs to be able to cover tuition. A number of those students are parents with kids, sometimes single parents.

    And then don't forget that we try to maintain our academic standards in the face of declining standards nationally.

    Retention will always be a problem if we are trying to do it right, if we are trying to give everyone a chance, but still insisting on excellence. Low retention should only be a problem if we are failing to offer our kids the support they need to pass their classes.
    How does UL count "on-line" learning students? If a student pays tuition, does it matter if classes are in-person or on-line? Is this a growing area for UL? I have to believe that schools that report huge enrollment numbers include on-line students. Even if they are only taking one class a semester, they are still enrolled.

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    Default Re: Louisiana Student Enrollment 1901-2023

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Retention will always be a problem if we are trying to do it right, if we are trying to give everyone a chance, but still insisting on excellence. Low retention should only be a problem if we are failing to offer our kids the support they need to pass their classes.
    Admitting to college young people who have a low probability of finishing is not inclusion and giving everyone a shot. It’s a strategy to collect a quick buck and keep enrollment numbers high. Your admission standards should match the academic standards you expect throughout the collegiate experience. Anything else and you’ve left the realm of education and entered into thievery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Poor Baldwin, he just happened to be there when UL lost 9% of its student body.
    Baldwin being hired coincided almost exactly with when we went to selective admissions.

    You are the absolute king of thinking correlation means causation, especially when you think it supports your predetermined theory.

  12. Default Re: Louisiana Student Enrollment 1901-2023

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieK View Post
    Baldwin being hired coincided almost exactly with when we went to selective admissions.

    You are the absolute king of thinking correlation means causation, especially when you think it supports your predetermined theory.
    As a wise man once said, 6-27.

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