Welp, we all knew this day was coming

[ZoomZoom]

SEC and Big10 not interested…today. It was also stated the PAC is officially dead in a roundabout way. The A4.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...private-equity

[RaginCajun77]

SEC and Big10 not interested…today. It was also stated the PAC is officially dead in a roundabout way. The A4.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...private-equity

In February, the SEC and Big Ten announced the formation of a joint advisory group, and this one-day meeting at the Grand Hyatt was a continuation of that -- albeit with legal counsel present to make sure both conferences weren't crossing any lines that could be construed as collusion.

"Our legal counsel is very skilled at this point in defining the boundaries of what we can talk about and what we cannot talk about," SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said.

Oh, we're worried about collusion, who knew? They must think those of us watching this must be absolute idiots.

[JamesTheJeweler]

Don't get distracted by the dollars.

I mentioned a game-theory analysis of the situation elsewhere. Here's the thing we need to remember: Football is a zero sum game. At the end of a season, the number of W's will equal the number of L's… exactly.

Which leads to an unexpected insight: the P5-4-3 want to control all of the W's. But they can't because we control most of the L's. If the game splits into Px and Gx, half of the Px will instantly suffer losing records.

At the same time, over half of the Gx will have better than winning records. That's because we will still play teams from 1AA, so our cumulative records will be 55-60% or so. We will expend less money (just as was true for the old AFL v the NFL) but it doesn't matter, more of us will have better records, and we will start to produce teams with great records, even more undefeateds.

Before continuing, I also need to point out that money won't seal the deal for a lot of players. If you play baseball from the time you're 10, you'll probably get playing time in over 700 games by the time you graduate college. For football, it may be less than 80, particularly if you don't start as a freshman in HS or college. Well, if you want to go pro, game experience is critical. The Px can't give you that, but if you are a standout, the Gx can.

And then there will be the outstanding players who want a real education, and who don't want to play with hired thugs who don't go to class, and who do all manner of questionable things. Because when the Px go completely pro, their programs will degrade into homes for social misfits who excel at a pointless game.

Finally, the athletics-over-all-else mentality will undermine the academic reputations of the Px schools. Once the Px and Gx are totally separated, there will be no direct athletic comparisons, but there will still be academic comparisons. Remember, UL has passed up LSU, 'Bama, and several other schools in research funding, and we will pass more of them in the future. Other academic disparities will emerge. And the constant scandals from the Px will reinforce the message that they are more reformatory than laboratory.

So, our records will improve, but theirs will decline. They will whine, "You don't play anybody." We will respond, "You're afraid to play us."

With time, the two sides will have to settle the matter; remember, the big money wants, it pathologically needs, bragging rights. So the two sides will eventually establish a championship game, a college superbowl. And just like the early Superbowls, the NFL will dominate. They're bigger, and they pay more.

But there will be upsets. And with time, parity will emerge.

Like I said, the administrators at the big schools are clueless bozos.

[Hey Turb, the software here won't allow a dot-dot-dot for an ellipsis it converts it to a single period. Makes it hard, I had to find the ASCII, … ]

Just put a space between the dots, Fun

[JamesTheJeweler]

Come on, man.. you guys can't really believe that interest in G5 teams go up because of W/L record?

The average college football fan - including the locals we're trying to lure to Cajun Field - thinks that G5 teams are a joke.

Only people watching G5 games are gambling addicts and fans of those teams/conferences

Sorry, but those are the same people watching P4 teams. There's just more of them.

[HoustonCajun]

Yeah, maybe another half dozen or so from both B12 & ACC to fill in 'market gaps' plus Notre Dame to go with the 34 in B10/SEC and they're at 48 teams/schools making their own playoff. They could surprise us and include all the B12/ACC schools, but as you stated the greed knows no bounds. P4 will still like scheduling G6 schools to pad the win columns.

Texas is an example of what the top P4 schools are like. Most P4 members can't compete with these numbers.


This is what the G5 schools are competing with:

Payouts to each conference member:

Big 10 - $60M
SEC - $51M
ACC - $45M
Big 12 - $44M
Pac 12 - $34M

SBC - $2.5M

The highest budgets in the country in 2023 were:

Ohio State - $280M - Big 10
Texas A&M - $279M - SEC
Texas - $271M - SEC
Michigan - $229M - Big 10
Georgia - $210M - SEC

Clemson - $196M - highest ACC budget
Texas Tech - $146M - highest Big 12 budget

LSU - $200M - for comparison purposes (#9 overall budget & 5th in SEC)

The lowest budget in the SEC is Miss State at $115M.
The lowest budget in the Big 10 is UCLA at $106M.
The lowest budget in the Big 12 is West Virginia at $105M.

The highest budget of G5 schools is SDSU at #50 with an athletic budget of $103M.

UL has an athletic budget of ~$40M.

[CajunVic]

Texas is an example of what the top P4 schools are like. Most P4 members can't compete with these numbers.


This is what the G5 schools are competing with:

Payouts to each conference member:

Big 10 - $60M
SEC - $51M
ACC - $45M
Big 12 - $44M
Pac 12 - $34M

SBC - $2.5M

The highest budgets in the country in 2023 were:

Ohio State - $280M - Big 10
Texas A&M - $279M - SEC
Texas - $271M - SEC
Michigan - $229M - Big 10
Georgia - $210M - SEC

Clemson - $196M - highest ACC budget
Texas Tech - $146M - highest Big 12 budget

LSU - $200M - for comparison purposes (#9 overall budget & 5th in SEC)

The lowest budget in the SEC is Miss State at $115M.
The lowest budget in the Big 10 is UCLA at $106M.
The lowest budget in the Big 12 is West Virginia at $105M.

The highest budget of G5 schools is SDSU at #50 with an athletic budget of $103M.

UL has an athletic budget of ~$40M.

oh, wow, know your place . . . haven't we seen that before . . .

[CajunNation]

. . . . .
The lowest budget in the SEC is Miss State at $115M.
The lowest budget in the Big 10 is UCLA at $106M.
The lowest budget in the Big 12 is West Virginia at $105M.

UL has an athletic budget of ~$40M.

Louisiana budget as member of Big 10 is $100M
Louisiana budget as member of SEC is $91M
Louisiana budget as member of ACC is $85M
Louisiana bujdget as member of Big 12 is $84M

[CajunVic]

Louisiana budget as member of Big 10 is $100M
Louisiana budget as member of SEC is $91M
Louisiana budget as member of ACC is $85M
Louisiana bujdget as member of Big 12 is $84M

so poof and we there . . .

[ZoomZoom]

Texas is an example of what the top P4 schools are like. Most P4 members can't compete with these numbers.


This is what the G5 schools are competing with:

Payouts to each conference member:

Big 10 - $60M
SEC - $51M
ACC - $45M
Big 12 - $44M
Pac 12 - $34M

SBC - $2.5M

The highest budgets in the country in 2023 were:

Ohio State - $280M - Big 10
Texas A&M - $279M - SEC
Texas - $271M - SEC
Michigan - $229M - Big 10
Georgia - $210M - SEC

Clemson - $196M - highest ACC budget
Texas Tech - $146M - highest Big 12 budget

LSU - $200M - for comparison purposes (#9 overall budget & 5th in SEC)

The lowest budget in the SEC is Miss State at $115M.
The lowest budget in the Big 10 is UCLA at $106M.
The lowest budget in the Big 12 is West Virginia at $105M.

The highest budget of G5 schools is SDSU at #50 with an athletic budget of $103M.

UL has an athletic budget of ~$40M.

Other than baseball, Moo State dwells in the bottom half of the standings in other sports more often that not. Correlation of money and performance?