Milton: Another Gulf of Mexico storm

[ZoomZoom]

I was at Costco yesterday and they had Charmin brand toilet paper only, but it appeared to be going fast! Bottled water also appeared to be very low. I was thinking possibly some of these basic supplies might have been sent toward the Carolina's and hurricane ravished areas.

That a whole other level of damage western NC is facing. I have multiple friends that do hurricane relief work. None were sent to NC. I’m sure they’re people working there, but the enormity of the work to be done is mind boggling. And winter is coming.

I’m with you, hope these things are being sent to NC. But the barking union boss is like the weather man. Fear sells.

[RaginCajun77]

The toilet paper buying is bad cher.

[Cajun90]

That a whole other level of damage western NC is facing. I have multiple friends that do hurricane relief work. None were sent to NC. I’m sure they’re people working there, but the enormity of the work to be done is mind boggling. And winter is coming.

I’m with you, hope these things are being sent to NC. But the barking union boss is like the weather man. Fear sells.

I did commercial construction project management for a major disaster services company until recently. It is an extremely high stress job. On one level I miss it. On another I'm glad not to be deploying to NC right now. The level of destruction from this storm will rival Katrina in its scope. The rebuilding will continue for the next decade. Word is that the two North/South Interstates will be out of service for 6 months to a year. I've heard in some areas there is no rebuilding because the land simple doesn't exist anymore. Whole mountainsides were washed away.

[HelmutVII]

I did commercial construction project management for a major disaster services company until recently. It is an extremely high stress job. On one level I miss it. On another I'm glad not to be deploying to NC right now. The level of destruction from this storm will rival Katrina in its scope. The rebuilding will continue for the next decade. Word is that the two North/South Interstates will be out of service for 6 months to a year. I've heard in some areas there is no rebuilding because the land simple doesn't exist anymore. Whole mountainsides were washed away.

I-40 at the state line closed until SEPTEMBER 2025 I 26 at the state line closed until MARCH 2025.

[Big Tyme]

I-40 at the state line closed until SEPTEMBER 2025 I 26 at the state line closed until MARCH 2025.

This is incredible.

[ZoomZoom]

I’m waiting for the situation to settle down a little in Appalachia and watch people come unhinge after losing their homes to a flood, and of course, had no flood insurance. Class action lawsuits for failed dams for starters. And FEMA has no money, but I’ll stop there. That’s a topic for Reddit.

It’s such a large area, there’s a ton of obstacles to overcome just infrastructure wise. And winter is coming.

But I’d be remiss without expressing compassion towards those folks, especially those who lost loved ones that may never be found.

[Cajun90]

I’m waiting for the situation to settle down a little in Appalachia and watch people come unhinge after losing their homes to a flood, and of course, had no flood insurance. Class action lawsuits for failed dams for starters. And FEMA has no money, but I’ll stop there. That’s a topic for Reddit.

It’s such a large area, there’s a ton of obstacles to overcome just infrastructure wise. And winter is coming.

But I’d be remiss without expressing compassion towards those folks, especially those who lost loved ones that may never be found.

While there might have been some small private dam failures I can't find any reports of failures. Stunning that they all held up. Some of them had flow rates over 100% higher than the prior record flow rates.

The insurance is definitely going to be an issue. I saw one stat that said only 2.5% of properties in Western North Carolina had flood insurance.

The head of the CajunNavy said he had never seen destruction at this level.

[HelmutVII]

While there might have been some small private dam failures I can't find any reports of failures. Stunning that they all held up. Some of them had flow rates over 100% higher than the prior record flow rates.

The insurance is definitely going to be an issue. I saw one stat that said only 2.5% of properties in Western North Carolina had flood insurance.

The head of the CajunNavy said he had never seen destruction at this level.

I 40 and I-26 being washed out at the Tennessee state line is a big deal. The locals will have to depend on local and state routes to get around for a good while. Imagine if the Basin Bridge was washed out by a flood. The amount of traffic through Lafayette, Morgan city and Opelousas would be unbelievable. This is an unprecedented event. Surely a lot can be learned from it. Many of the stories I have heard about events and suffering at assisted living and nursing homes is just heartbreaking.

It truly underscores the two basic principles of civil engineering. The number one indication of an advanced civilization is the ample supply of drinking water. The number two indication of an advanced civilization is.the efficient collection and treatment of waste water. Water is the gift of life and can also be a vector for some pretty dreadful diseases. A resource we take for granted but is the fundamental building block for and advanced society.

Storm water runoff is a gift also. It can provide hydro power or it can wash away you, your home, your highways in a short period of time . Because of that, it can be a fundamental destroyer of our society.

A classic double edged sword.

[Cajunrunner]

Imagine if the Basin Bridge was washed out by a flood. The amount of traffic through Lafayette, Morgan city and Opelousas would be unbelievable.

Governments of Patterson and Krotz Springs would see a boom in revenues, thanks to all the speeding tickets.

Drivers along the 190 route, especially regular commuters, would put on extra pounds passing by Bosco's, Billy's and Kartchner's.

[Cajun90]

It truly underscores the two basic principles of civil engineering. The number one indication of an advanced civilization is the ample supply of drinking water. The number two indication of an advanced civilization is.the efficient collection and treatment of waste water. Water is the gift of life and can also be a vector for some pretty dreadful diseases. A resource we take for granted but is the fundamental building block for and advanced society.

Storm water runoff is a gift also. It can provide hydro power or it can wash away you, your home, your highways in a short period of time . Because of that, it can be a fundamental destroyer of our society.

A classic double edged sword.

I've done some water projects in Honduras & Nicaragua where Hurricane Mitch hit and killed over 10,000 people. I see similar levels of destruction in North Carolina. The Choluteca bridge in Nicaragua is famous for surviving the storm but being utilized useless because the river had changed course and no longer flowed under the bridge. I'm seeing similar situations now in NC. I believe some of these locations are simple beyond rebuilding.

[SlickRick]

This is incredible.

All because of fossil fuel! Doh!

[BayouRichard]

Major interstates and roads washed out is a major issue. Flooding and water rescue is not a new issue. Apparently no one in charge remembers the process of rescue that was utilized during Katrina. History repeating itself.