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    Immeasurable is defined by comparisons.

    They were getting almost nothing in the old under the table system and now with the same money they are getting something tangible.

    "immeasurable."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Immeasurable is defined by comparisons.

    They were getting almost nothing in the old under the table system and now with the same money they are getting something tangible.

    "immeasurable."
    that is why there is so much more money available now at the big schools . . . ROI . . . there is definitely more of a crap shoot for investors at the schools like in the Sunbelt

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    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.
    Exactly. I believe there are very few athletes that fall in that category. Which is what I'm getting at. People can say NIL, but for the donor, I believe that's a losing "investment". It's the schools themselves that are truly capitalizing on name, image and likeness of these athletes, not the actual donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    that is why there is so much more money available now at the big schools . . . ROI . . . there is definitely more of a crap shoot for investors at the schools like in the Sunbelt
    Explain Zeon Chriss for me. Show me where the donor MADE money on that 250k investment. I'm gonna wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.
    agree with you wholeheartedly at our level . . . those two athletes are an anomaly where anyone who latched on them won and are winning . . . Get Gordon, because of the nature of his business is killing it no matter the athlete . . . auto dealers not as much but still plenty of ROI because they can recover much of there implored capital investment if they structure it right . . . at Louisiana, the biggest return on investment will be creating a more competitive team as opposed to financial because the numbers you reach to patronize your services or products are so much lower . . . it’s all a matter of zeros after the first comma . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Explain Zeon Chriss for me. Show me where the donor MADE money on that 250k investment. I'm gonna wait.
    . . . I don’t know anything about it other than the menial facts you provided . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Exactly. I believe there are very few athletes that fall in that category. Which is what I'm getting at. People can say NIL, but for the donor, I believe that's a losing "investment". It's the schools themselves that are truly capitalizing on name, image and likeness of these athletes, not the actual donors.
    wut

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    Well supreme court said no limits, those sound like limits


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    that is why there is so much more money available now at the big schools . . . ROI . . . there is definitely more of a crap shoot for investors at the schools like in the Sunbelt
    If any of these companies go out of business will they be liable to investors if they spent on NIL and found now positive ROI

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Well supreme court said no limits, those sound like limits
    there will be no limits for those that can get more but at least most will get the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    . . . I don’t know anything about it other than the menial facts you provided . . .
    You have 2 college degrees and you can't figure this out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    You have 2 college degrees and you can't figure this out?
    . . . I would need a Jeanie or a mind reader . . . I can’t shat the facts . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.
    But what product makes her a positive roi to advertise? If she is making her own money based on posts/activity monitization that is different and not ROI that a company would see based on paying NIL

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    I don't think any NIL deal is made with an expectation of a ROI. Making an NIL deal is now simply a legal way of paying a player(s).


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