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    Boomer, everybody remembers the pretty Co-Ed . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    What athletes are you referring to? Name me the athletes that you would pay NIL money to that would return a good ROI for said donation.
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball
    Athletes that are still here! And just because they are getting paid, still doesn't mean donors are getting a return on that "investment". Are you telling me any of the athletes that left here for more money are returning a good ROI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball
    For instance, heard reports of Zeon getting $250k+ NIL money. Even if it's half that, what kind of return do you think that donor is getting back for their "advertising" dollar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    For instance, heard reports of Zeon getting $250k+ NIL money. Even if it's half that, what kind of return do you think that donor is getting back for their "advertising" dollar?
    every donor and every athlete is different . . . I believe Get Gordon is getting immeasurable return on every one of his investments no matter the athlete. I believe car dealers are also making hay with NIL donations and coming out very well as most of these are leases where they get back a good bit of the investment to reemploy . . . I believe NIL to the bigger schools bring back substantially more return which is one reason that schools like Louisiana have a more difficult time securing NIL investors . . . but this analysis on a case by case basis on both sides is way to complicated to just throw out a one liner

    not sure what DeBarge was earning in NIL but that is one that we don’t know how fortunate we were to be able to keep him here for 3 years without getting poached . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    You know.....that's a very good point..
    Thank you, and sorry certain posters will now hate you

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    Immeasurable is defined by comparisons.

    They were getting almost nothing in the old under the table system and now with the same money they are getting something tangible.

    "immeasurable."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Immeasurable is defined by comparisons.

    They were getting almost nothing in the old under the table system and now with the same money they are getting something tangible.

    "immeasurable."
    that is why there is so much more money available now at the big schools . . . ROI . . . there is definitely more of a crap shoot for investors at the schools like in the Sunbelt

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    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.
    Exactly. I believe there are very few athletes that fall in that category. Which is what I'm getting at. People can say NIL, but for the donor, I believe that's a losing "investment". It's the schools themselves that are truly capitalizing on name, image and likeness of these athletes, not the actual donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    that is why there is so much more money available now at the big schools . . . ROI . . . there is definitely more of a crap shoot for investors at the schools like in the Sunbelt
    Explain Zeon Chriss for me. Show me where the donor MADE money on that 250k investment. I'm gonna wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I don't think any NIL investor at our level gets anywhere close to a positive ROI on his money. In fact, the only ones I can think of offhand at ANY level who probably DO have a positive ROI are Livvie Dunne, who is insanely popular on social media, hence has millions of followers and many advertisers, and Caitlin Clark's sponsors [only because she has become a media and social media darling]. Of current NCAA athletes, I can think of none.
    agree with you wholeheartedly at our level . . . those two athletes are an anomaly where anyone who latched on them won and are winning . . . Get Gordon, because of the nature of his business is killing it no matter the athlete . . . auto dealers not as much but still plenty of ROI because they can recover much of there implored capital investment if they structure it right . . . at Louisiana, the biggest return on investment will be creating a more competitive team as opposed to financial because the numbers you reach to patronize your services or products are so much lower . . . it’s all a matter of zeros after the first comma . . .

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