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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunsHat View Post
    Kinesiology has several paths…not all are gonna be teachers, and not all will go to PT school.

    PE teachers have to major in education and go through same steps as any other teacher, of which just happen to be kinesiology major as well (same thing as majoring in Music Education…music teachers)

    Kinesiology majors can go to get masters degree in exercise physiology, doctoral of physical therapy / occupational therapy, various other health/wellness fields (wellness director position), athletic training, strength / conditioning coaches, personal trainers, and honestly more to be honest.

    It’s a diverse bachelors degree which is good to have options.

    Myself, I went back to school for nursing.

    So don’t knock kinesiology by saying everyone is goin just to be PE teachers.
    Thank you. I like that it has options. I didnt think i knocked it.
    The thing that i am curious about though is the # of spots. Most majors limit those that can enter, class full, i had assumed it also factors in the job market (but maybe not), number of sections/teachers, etc.
    I remember nursing used to really limit those moving on to junior year. If it does sound like a knock it is my impression of the large number of athletes in the major. A. That that many are actually interested in it and b. The other things mentioned. Makes it look like a hiding ground for athletes, recommended by coach, for possible easy classes??

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    Not sure if the classes are in and around bourgeois/athletic complex which could make for another reason but not a sound academic reason


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    Like who? If you're gonna call people out, have the balls to name names.
    Chill out man. I would be glad to call them out. Only my balls aren't that big since it's like a butt load of people from every where which are way too many to call out. Don't take it so personally. But I'll say it again for your benefit. The same whiners who are crying about the NIL. Are the same people who preach capitalism, capitalism, capitalism in every other aspect of life. The fact is capitalism works, until it doesn't. Then everyone goes tits up trying to outdo each other.

    I'll say it again for the record. The smaller conferences need to come to a conclusive agreement that the participating programs will all agree to pay these men & women an hourly wage while they practice their perspective sports with a cap on hours based on NCAA rules if there are still any left. And their fans need to be satisfied with a conference championship as their goal. The thought that a Coastal Carolina, or a UL, or a USM will ever win another natty in any major competitive sport under these circumstances is ludicrous. And it's not the fans, or the school's, or the community's, or the coaches fault. It's a system which will eventually cannibalize itself one way, or the other.

    In the mean time the quality of most of these sports being played by everyone continues to degrade in quality due to all of the unnecessary insane transfers. To top that off. Does anyone ever ask themselves about why stuff costs so much these days? Does some of a 4 dollar loaf of bread, or an 80,000 dollar pick up truck possibly have to do with the massive amount of over spending we are doing as a society on watching this never ending game of mumbly peg that's driving our whole society in the ditch over new football facilities & basketball facilities & baseball facilities & now paying participants, just so we can try to keep up with the next guy, or the guys 50 miles down the road who are insane with their own keep up with the Jones efforts?

    At some point, grown ups are going to have to start acting like grown ups & say, hey this what we got. It's the best we can do with a limited amount of money, whatever that figure is. And other people are going to have to act like grown ups & accept that this is the way it is going to be. That my friend is my best effort at telling it like it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    How does kinesiology differ from education majors? Wouldnt education major lead to teaching license, does kinesiology also?
    Kinesiology has an educational path, kinesiology is actually under the “college of education”

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Not sure if the classes are in and around bourgeois/athletic complex which could make for another reason but not a sound academic reason
    It came off as knock by simply assuming people major in kinesiology to be PE teacher. When I’d say majority do not.

    90% of classes are in bourgeois, the word kinesiology means “study of movement” so it encompasses so many pathways for graduates

    The admissions for PT school is competitive, most of my classmates had 3.8 gpa or higher who went to PT. Also I’ve had some friends go to chiropractor.

    Anything in healthcare is always competitive, however also diverse with numerous job opportunities when finishing schooling.

    I don’t know anyone unemployed or “looking for work” with a healthcare background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunsHat View Post
    It came off as knock by simply assuming people major in kinesiology to be PE teacher. When I’d say majority do not.

    90% of classes are in bourgeois, the word kinesiology means “study of movement” so it encompasses so many pathways for graduates

    The admissions for PT school is competitive, most of my classmates had 3.8 gpa or higher who went to PT. Also I’ve had some friends go to chiropractor.

    Anything in healthcare is always competitive, however also diverse with numerous job opportunities when finishing schooling.

    I don’t know anyone unemployed or “looking for work” with a healthcare background.
    Thanks. Dont think the knock post you reference was me.
    So do you think too many athletes are in it, what is the undergrad acceptance rate.
    should those without high enough gpa change major to make room for other students that have a true interest?
    Does this major have more expenses, equipment, lab etc? I.e. we are actually losing money if scholarship athletes are in it but would cost less in another book only major?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Thanks. Dont think the knock post you reference was me.
    So do you think too many athletes are in it, what is the undergrad acceptance rate.
    should those without high enough gpa change major to make room for other students that have a true interest?
    Does this major have more expenses, equipment, lab etc? I.e. we are actually losing money if scholarship athletes are in it but would cost less in another book only major?
    .So here is the situation……a very good NILer is getting hundreds of thousand of bucks from a big time fan/supporter…….he chooses to not go to class and academically becomes ineligible to play per NCAA, school, or conference rules…is he now ineligible to compete and not able to play??? Can he give a teacher thousands of bucks to pass him to be eligible? Can’t wait for this situation……remember the pretty co-Ed suddenly getting a passing grade for finals from the male professor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1Letterman View Post
    Should espn have to pay the athletes they show in top 10 plays?
    You know.....that's a very good point..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    I guess you have not been following the basketball and softball transfers
    What athletes are you referring to? Name me the athletes that you would pay NIL money to that would return a good ROI for said donation.

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    Boomer, everybody remembers the pretty Co-Ed . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    What athletes are you referring to? Name me the athletes that you would pay NIL money to that would return a good ROI for said donation.
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball
    Athletes that are still here! And just because they are getting paid, still doesn't mean donors are getting a return on that "investment". Are you telling me any of the athletes that left here for more money are returning a good ROI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    if you are that far back in the fog, give it up brother . . . 6 have just left softball and 3 or 4 left basketball
    For instance, heard reports of Zeon getting $250k+ NIL money. Even if it's half that, what kind of return do you think that donor is getting back for their "advertising" dollar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    For instance, heard reports of Zeon getting $250k+ NIL money. Even if it's half that, what kind of return do you think that donor is getting back for their "advertising" dollar?
    every donor and every athlete is different . . . I believe Get Gordon is getting immeasurable return on every one of his investments no matter the athlete. I believe car dealers are also making hay with NIL donations and coming out very well as most of these are leases where they get back a good bit of the investment to reemploy . . . I believe NIL to the bigger schools bring back substantially more return which is one reason that schools like Louisiana have a more difficult time securing NIL investors . . . but this analysis on a case by case basis on both sides is way to complicated to just throw out a one liner

    not sure what DeBarge was earning in NIL but that is one that we don’t know how fortunate we were to be able to keep him here for 3 years without getting poached . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    You know.....that's a very good point..
    Thank you, and sorry certain posters will now hate you

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