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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    People all excited about UL and the solar farm. Hope there’s a backup plan, seen this first hand. Hurricane force winds and solar panels. No quick fix.
    Most solar panels are wind rated for 100-140 mph winds. Some in PR worked in 150+ mph gusts.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by Fais do-do View Post
    I pray all my fellow Cajuns are safe. Down here in the Galveston area we are getting some steady hard wind and rain. Thanks ERCOT for no electricity, glad they spend all that money, billions, on infrastructure (too bad it was on stupid renewable crap and not upgrading the existing structure)!
    Nothing wrong with spending it SMARTLY on renewables, but agree spending on any technology without keeping the existing production and transmission in top working order is very foolish.

    I invested in solar panels and Telsa Powerwalls at my house and I have had 100% uptime during this whole event. I have a new fence that will be getting installed thanks to Beryl and maybe a new AC unit as well. This was one of the most severe wind storms I have been and I have like on the Louisiana and Texas Gulf Coast since 1966.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tyme View Post
    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02.er-storm-2021/

    Yeah, not green energy's fault. Maybe those 'political animals' screaming deregulation.
    yeah,not green energy,you could just stop there actually

  4. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCajun View Post
    yeah,not green energy,you could just stop there actually
    Annnddd no actual thought. Expected.

  5. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman66 View Post
    Nothing wrong with spending it SMARTLY on renewables, but agree spending on any technology without keeping the existing production and transmission in top working order is very foolish.

    I invested in solar panels and Telsa Powerwalls at my house and I have had 100% uptime during this whole event. I have a new fence that will be getting installed thanks to Beryl and maybe a new AC unit as well. This was one of the most severe wind storms I have been and I have like on the Louisiana and Texas Gulf Coast since 1966.
    The grid will always be the weak link, I think. Storage is a sticky problem too.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Saw an article months back where these large solar farms were raising the atmospheric temperature more than carbon emissions.

    I do recognize like any set of data. You can make it tell the story you want it to tell. But it does make sense to me. I drive a black vehicle and it attracts a lot of heat in the summer.


  7. #217

    Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    The simple fact where the expansion of urban heat islands since record keeping started 100+ years ago has contributed greatly to temperature rise. It doesn’t take a PhD to use common sense observation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingCajun08 View Post
    Saw an article months back where these large solar farms were raising the atmospheric temperature more than carbon emissions.

    I do recognize like any set of data. You can make it tell the story you want it to tell. But it does make sense to me. I drive a black vehicle and it attracts a lot of heat in the summer.
    If you think a couple of solar farms are what's causing atmospheric temperatures, you should see how urban areas with extensive parking lots, streets, and rooftops contribute significantly to the urban heat island effect. As you mentioned this phenomenon occurs because these surfaces absorb and retain more heat compared to natural landscapes.

    Urban areas can be significantly warmer than their rural surroundings due to the high concentration of buildings, roads, and other infrastructure that absorb and re-emit heat. Daytime temperatures in cities can be 1-7°F higher than in outlying areas, and nighttime temperatures can be 2-5°F higher​​.

    Material Properties: Surfaces like asphalt, concrete, and dark rooftops absorb and retain heat much more than natural surfaces. These materials can become extremely hot under the sun and contribute to the overall warming of the urban environment. For example, conventional roofing materials can reach temperatures up to 60°F warmer than the ambient air​ "My NASA Data"​​​.

    Therefore, while solar farms can have localized heating effects, the widespread impact of urban infrastructure on atmospheric temperatures is a much larger issue.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    People all excited about UL and the solar farm. Hope there’s a backup plan, seen this first hand. Hurricane force winds and solar panels. No quick fix.
    Dang what part of Texas is this?

  10. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    The simple fact where the expansion of urban heat islands since record keeping started 100+ years ago has contributed greatly to temperature rise. It doesn’t take a PhD to use common sense observation.
    Since Urban Heat Islands have been a known thing for a while now, I would imagine that they are factored into the overall readings. I would be very surprised if UHIs have much effect on the global atmospheric temp.

  11. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by fpc4life99 View Post
    Dang what part of Texas is this?
    I doubt it's Texas. But Truth never got in the way of manufactured outrage. I have seen pics of shingle roofs torn off houses in TX. Maybe we should stop putting roofs on too. Go back to the good old days of thatch and sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tyme View Post
    Annnddd no actual thought. Expected.
    Its not green energy, quite toxic actually. They dont even produce the energy it takes to make them. The biggest problem with "green energy" is storing it, which is extremely toxic and inefficient. Its a scam but you keep virtue signaling how much better you are because you believe the lies. We could definitely discuss this if you want to actually learn something about it.

  13. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCajun View Post
    Its not green energy, quite toxic actually. They dont even produce the energy it takes to make them. The biggest problem with "green energy" is storing it, which is extremely toxic and inefficient. Its a scam but you keep virtue signaling how much better you are because you believe the lies. We could definitely discuss this if you want to actually learn something about it.
    Its a scam . . . you cold have stopped there

  14. Default Re: Hurricane Beryl

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCajun View Post
    Its not green energy, quite toxic actually. They dont even produce the energy it takes to make them. The biggest problem with "green energy" is storing it, which is extremely toxic and inefficient. Its a scam but you keep virtue signaling how much better you are because you believe the lies. We could definitely discuss this if you want to actually learn something about it.
    It takes more energy to manufacture a solar panel than the panel makes over a 20-30 lifespan?
    I mentioned storage in an earlier post. That is usually the sticking point for all energy sources. That 24 gallon tank of 91 octane is pretty bad stuff. Luckily there is research on many types of less hazardous storage solutions.
    I never said anything about being better than anyone else. Projecting a little maybe? Or feeling guilty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpc4life99 View Post
    Therefore, while solar farms can have localized heating effects, the widespread impact of urban infrastructure on atmospheric temperatures is a much larger issue.
    100% agree. The study was conducted directly in the vicinity of the solar farms. Just thought it was an interesting take I had never thought about.

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