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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckster View Post
    Very good point sir. Certainly not against either. But if the operations money is getting slimmer in order to pay the players is it better to reduce costs across the board of all sports or trim a few off if allowed? And I think I interpret R1Letterman's point that all of this is intentional by the P4 and I'll throw in the corporate media with them cheerleading this set up for a breakaway. It all stinks to high heaven.
    If you have to choose and are free of regulations preventing it, you are much better off having a few sports competing at a high level than many mediocre ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    Huge changes coming to college baseball. Look for the P4 to basically become short season single A ball. They will give full scholarships plus stipends to all players on their roster. Everyone else will pay what they can but be a different division with their own CWS.
    It depends. If the number of required sports is reduced, we can chose where the money from the deleted programs get re-directed. Why would we send that money to sports that cannot be competitive at a high level [Football]? Or to programs that have chosen to lower their standard rather than try to compete at a high level [MBB, WBB]? Why not send those savings to sports that have a tradition of high level competition and/or a chance of success at that level [Softball, Baseball, Track & Field]?

    Also; through NIL, P4 schools are already paying significant sums to players indirectly.
    Arkansas, for example, gave every girl on the softball roster free use of an automobile last year.

    In effect, the P5/4 have been separated from everyone else for years in both Baseball and Softball. In the last 25 years P5/4 schools have won all but 3 National Championships in Baseball. In softball, that number is even more lopsided; P5/4 teams have won all but 2 championships since 1982. The most recent non P5/4 winner was in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    It depends. If the number of required sports is reduced, we can chose where the money from the deleted programs get re-directed. Why would we send that money to sports that cannot be competitive at a high level [Football]? Or to programs that have chosen to lower their standard rather than try to compete at a high level [MBB, WBB]? Why not send those savings to sports that have a tradition of high level competition and/or a chance of success at that level [Softball, Baseball, Track & Field]?

    Also; through NIL, P4 schools are already paying significant sums to players indirectly.
    Arkansas, for example, gave every girl on the softball roster free use of an automobile last year.

    In effect, the P5/4 have been separated from everyone else for years in both Baseball and Softball. In the last 25 years P5/4 schools have won all but 3 National Championships in Baseball. In softball, that number is even more lopsided; P5/4 teams have won all but 2 championships since 1982. The most recent non P5/4 winner was in 1998.
    This is from people well informed on the workings of college and professional baseball. They are saying the split will be to baseball specific conferences. Been in the works for 3 or 4 years behind the scenes which is also why MLB cut teams & shortened the draft. Major shakeup in the college baseball landscape coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Easy to drop baseball; not so easy to drop any Title 9 protected sport [e.g. softball]
    Ark state doesn't have softball. So cutting baseball saves 23 scholarships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    Huge changes coming to college baseball. Look for the P4 to basically become short season single A ball. They will give full scholarships plus stipends to all players on their roster. Everyone else will pay what they can but be a different division with their own CWS.
    Will we have a lower price to watch the new lower than division than current espn plus prices?

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    Time and stance are interesting. You can either let them run out, or catch as much of each as possible.

    You make it sound like we should give up, because you don't know of any options. The past failures shouldn't dictate our future.

    Sometimes you have to stand up and use all the time available. I choose to fight, and hope you do also. There's a lot more money out there than you realize. UL just has to convince those with it, to invest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    This is from people well informed on the workings of college and professional baseball. They are saying the split will be to baseball specific conferences. Been in the works for 3 or 4 years behind the scenes which is also why MLB cut teams & shortened the draft. Major shakeup in the college baseball landscape coming.
    This is from the latest deal in 2023:

    Minimum salaries will increase from $4,800 to $19,800 a season for rookie ball; $11,000 to $27,300 at High Class A; $13,800 to $27,300 at Class AA;

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    Checks notes: mid week games count in pro ball at all levels, not sure P4 wants that aspect


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    Nebraska 's John Cook deferred compensation agreement:

    "If Mr. Cook terminates employment as head coach of the program prior to January 31, 2029 and accepts employment as a coach with a member school of the NCAA or a successor organization."

    Looks like lawyers are beginning to cover their tracks for if/when the NCAA implodes and a new governing body emerges as its successor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    “Making the example out of Southern Utah rather than a premier FBS program, though, is just the latest example of the organization's failure to draw meaningful lines in the sand.“

    Its obvious that they don’t care that they are just perpetuating a stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Unlimited scholarships on the way. Every player gets paid, current, future and former.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...aa-settlement/
    …..FORMER did you say FORMER???…..So if I was a leading receiver rusher kicker……do I get some bucks? Maybe the last guy to score FGs, ExPts, rec, rushing H of F..well maybe I get my new shoulder replacement cash! Yes I kid, but you never know!

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