BB Final: Louisiana 15, SLU 5

[Dad04]

You should probably listen to the pregame interview with Deggs before the games. Langevin was slated to throw tonight, as well as Holzhammer and Christie….by design.

And if you don’t think this Cajuns staff is “deep” you may not have much of a clue about college baseball. Having a couple good starters and a good couple of relievers and you have a good college staff. Being able to use 3 different SETS of relievers behind 3 excellent starters gives you one of the deepest staffs in the country.

Some simply pick the weirdest hills to die on.

We have 10 pitchers with sub 4 ERA'S that have thrown 87% of innings pitched through last weekend. That is All World deep.

People don't realize the confidence position players have playing behind a strong staff like ours, in the field and at the plate. They feel invincible.

[Million$Mullet]

Didn't he come in tonight. I was following on the stats and thought I saw his name.

Hell I dunno. I wasn’t keeping up with anything tonight due to my significant others bday. But I thought you meant hammer was our best weekend closer. Which I think LP is and now I’m understanding that they both pitched. LP threw his bullpen last week during a midweek game as well if I’m not mistaken.

[angeleast]

Don't sweat the troll!!

[fpc4life99]

To the point of depth…

The EIGHT pitchers that have thrown more than 20 innings this year have combined numbers of:

26-7 record
14 saves
2.75 ERA

And that doesn’t include Marshall, Cash and McGehee.

Wouldn't there average ERA be 2.9? Certainly! When considering the average ERA, the figure of 2.9 reflects a solid performance overall. Even with the inclusion of the ninth individual, the average remains respectable at 3.23. Breaking down the performance further reveals varying levels of effectiveness within different segments: the top three pitchers boast an impressive ERA of 2.00, while the 3-6 group holds a still commendable 3.02. However, the 6-9 segment sees a noticeable uptick in ERA, reaching 4.66, indicating a disparity in pitching performance across the different parts of the roster.

I not saying we have are bad at pitching, going back to my original statement 1-3 is probably one of the best in the nation. 3-6 very solid, I question our 7-10. Over the next few weeks, I'm sure we will get to see more and I hope that I'm wrong.

[sportsfanatic21]

Wouldn't there average ERA be 2.9? Certainly! When considering the average ERA, the figure of 2.9 reflects a solid performance overall. Even with the inclusion of the ninth individual, the average remains respectable at 3.23. Breaking down the performance further reveals varying levels of effectiveness within different segments: the top three pitchers boast an impressive ERA of 2.00, while the 3-6 group holds a still commendable 3.02. However, the 6-9 segment sees a noticeable uptick in ERA, reaching 4.66, indicating a disparity in pitching performance across the different parts of the roster.

I not saying we have are bad at pitching, going back to my original statement 1-3 is probably one of the best in the nation. 3-6 very solid, I question our 7-10. Over the next few weeks, I'm sure we will get to see more and I hope that I'm wrong.

Go take a look at 99% of the other teams in college baseball’s 7-10, or even their 6-9, and let me know what you find out.

I’ll give you a hint, the 6-9 will have an ERA over 5.00. You can probably figure out what 7-10 will look like.

Here’s a link for you…

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/team/211

If that posted correctly, you will see that the Cajuns ENTIRE staff has the 4th best ERA in the country at 3.35

And I just posted that the 8 guys with the most innings thrown have a combined 2.75 ERA.

There’s no way to spin it. This is one of the best and DEEPEST staffs in the country at this point in the season.

Look at little deeper on that link. The average team ERA in college baseball is about 6.00.

The Cajuns have ELEVEN guys that have regularly pitched that have ERAs below the national average.

I’m not sure how else to explain it but this is a very good and very deep staff

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[lcitsh]

Since others brought up other Sun Belt teams winning tonight, I'll add that Sun Belt teams went 7-3 tonight, with one of the losses still helping the Cajuns. Louisiana Tech beat ULM, 6-2.

[GoneGolfin]

If that's the case why do you bring in your top weekend reliever to finish off a mid week game?

Why? Because you need to get pitchers work and keep them sharp. LP's last appearance was last Friday and tonight was a good time to get him an inning. It has nothing to do with confidence in the staff, which you seem to be implying (in stunning erroneous fashion). LP will back Herrmann on Friday. Etheridge (closed Saturday and started tonight) likely backs Morgan on Saturday. Holzhammer threw only 11 pitches this weekend and needed work.

Also, all teams use their top relievers midweek if the situation warrants itself ... or if they need the work.

The problem Deggs faces this year (because the staff is so deep) is getting pitchers the appearances and innings they need to continue to develop and stay sharp. That depth also afforded the Cajun staff to pull Etheridge for two weeks and work on some adjustments. It has worked beautifully. Not many teams can afford to do that.

I also don't know if I would consider 14, 16, 17 innings significant compared to the low 40s of some of the others

Are you trying to say that you do not understand the difference between starter innings and reliever innings? You are also arguing against your point. There are a number of pitchers on this staff with more than 20 innings ... yet not a single pitcher has 50 ... and only two in the 40's. This is the textbook definition of depth. Then you have a guy that has thrown 15 innings and sports a 1.80 ERA not included in the above.

You need to be looking at appearances as well ... notably when you have a deep staff (which we obviously do) and there are not enough innings to go around for everyone. We have nine pitchers with double digit appearances (between 11 and 17). Eight of those are now pitching out of the pen. None of these eight include our three weekend starters ... who have 9 (Herrmann), 13 (Morgan), and 8 (Fluno) appearances respectively. Morgan has 13 because he was a reliever for a period of time.

Appearances are another strong indicator/metric for staff depth.

Brian

[cajundiehard]

Since others brought up other Sun Belt teams winning tonight, I'll add that Sun Belt teams went 7-3 tonight, with one of the losses still helping the Cajuns. Louisiana Tech beat ULM, 6-2.

I wouldn't say that loss helps the Cajuns... Cajuns are weighted 3x vs. ULM and 2x vs Tech. It's slight/just one game... but it would have been better for ULM to win... ;-) so I wouldn't say the Tech win helps the Cajuns.

[GoneGolfin]

Wouldn't there average ERA be 2.9? Certainly! When considering the average ERA, the figure of 2.9 reflects a solid performance overall. Even with the inclusion of the ninth individual, the average remains respectable at 3.23. Breaking down the performance further reveals varying levels of effectiveness within different segments: the top three pitchers boast an impressive ERA of 2.00, while the 3-6 group holds a still commendable 3.02. However, the 6-9 segment sees a noticeable uptick in ERA, reaching 4.66, indicating a disparity in pitching performance across the different parts of the roster.

I do not know where you are getting your numbers. But 6->9 have ERAs of 3.18 (Cash), 3.25 (Christie), and 3.54 (Etheridge). These are excellent ERAs in college baseball. Meanwhile, Etheridge could potentially prove to be the best of all of them and is currently pitching as our second best relief option. He has been very sharp since the adjustments with downright nasty stuff.

Brian

[GoneGolfin]

I wouldn't say that loss helps the Cajuns... Cajuns are weighted 3x vs. ULM and 2x vs Tech. It's slight/just one game... but it would have been better for ULM to win... ;-) so I wouldn't say the Tech win helps the Cajuns.

For pure RPI purposes, ULM winning is better (slightly). But we wanted Tech to win tonight ... furthering the chances that Tech will move into the RPI Top 60 and allow the Cajuns to have a Q1 win.

[cajundiehard]

For pure RPI purposes, ULM winning is better (slightly). But we wanted Tech to win tonight ... furthering the chances that Tech will move into the RPI Top 60 and allow the Cajuns to have a Q1 win.

Gotcha. Good point. Wish they would have held on to that 5-0 lead that they took into bottom 9 @ Arizona....