All my sarcastic BS aside, let me try and put in to words why I think this is a huge missed opportunity for the university (whether intentionally missed or not). I thought Josh hit the nail on the head last night in the pod when he referred to Ragin Review as “patio conversations.” I get there are different viewpoints in our fanbase, but listening to RR, something about it rings true because it’s three guys talking to each other on the same level that the fans I’ve grown up with talk to each other. The conversations they have are the same conversations I’ve had on phone calls with my dad, at tailgates with my cousins, and on road trips with my friends. They have managed to channel the authentic feel of those talks in to “media.” The administration has a golden opportunity as they have an open invitation to engage in these discussions, just as RR gives all fans an opportunity to join. It’s a chance to connect with your base on a human level in an arena they feel is trustworthy. Our base (at least the portion I associate with) doesn’t necessarily hold the same belief towards “conventional media.” Yet using the verbiage from SID’s previous questions, conventional media outlets are automatically accepted as “allies.” RR is placed under heavy criticism of being an “adversary.” My best guess as to the reason for this is that conventional media has accepted a role as a yes man to the university. Even if the intentions of a yes man are pure, they are still detrimental to achieving success.
I get people probably tire of me discussing this, but to me, it’s the perfect example of this university’s relationship with the local media and why fans distrust that source. Maggard’s interview with Prather after retaining Marlin following the 8th place finish. He mentions multiple times that Marlin has a “75% winning percentage at Louisiana.” This goes unchecked by Prather. This is never publicly addressed after and leaves a sour taste in the mouth of fans because either a.) they are being fed lies or b.) the man misspoke and the person interviewing him doesn’t feel comfortable enough to tell him he is mistaken. That’s something that happens more in a conversation with your boss where they say something off base, but you let it go to avoid repercussions. If you are having a “patio conversation” with a family member, you address the issue and move on.
There is an enormous disconnect between the university and the community. The university seems content to keep telling its supporters, “you aren’t actually seeing those things that are happening right in front of your face,” while nudging local media to say, “in today’s news, those things happening in broad daylight for all to see are just a mirage.” The path to connecting with this community has been shown too many times to this administration. There’s a red carpet leading right from Martin Hall to the people in this community, but these people want to keep wiping their shoes on it and hiding in their offices. The outcome of this strategy is clear. The only thing left up to debate is if this is the desired outcome or not. We’ve been beating our heads against this same wall for so long, it’s becoming hard to believe it’s not.
They are stuck in this cycle of stupidity:
1. Raise ticket prices
2. Increase RCAF donation requirement for season tickets
3. Raise tailgating prices
4. Raise prices & requirements for parking
5. Renovate facilities
6. Raise ticket prices
7. Fans decide all the price increases are not worth paying
8. Fans stop attending events
9. Admin wonders why revenue is going down
10. Come up with a new plan to make up for lost revenue.
The "new plan" is:
1. Raise ticket prices
2. Increase RCAF donation requirement for season tickets
3. Raise tailgating prices
4. Raise prices & requirements for parking
5. Renovate facilities
6. Raise ticket prices
7. Fans decide all the price increases are not worth paying
8. Fans stop attending events
9. Admin wonders why revenue is going down
10. Come up with a new plan to make up for lost revenue.
SUMMARY: You can't generate revenue by repeating the things that caused you to lose revenue
This was a good read, and I think you make excellent points. I would imagine if I listened to their podcast, I’d like much of it, disagree at times but would probably mostly enjoy the hustle and the passion.
I don’t even know the people who do it. I just know how many universities work.
My guess is someone involved in the show has ticked someone off in the admin. The question is if it’s justified to cut off access. Meeting with them to get that feedback would answer the riddle. And maybe they have.
IMO, if you’re gonna get access, you have to be fair. I agree you shouldn’t have to be the good boy and girl and just spit out rainbows and butterflies.
And there’s nothing wrong with negative opinions of coaches or admin. But it depends on how far it’s taken. To think the school is going to want to grant access to its athletes and coaches if someone associated with the show is dumping on a program, a coach, an administrator or (worse) a student-athlete, it’s just not going to happen if they are not dealing in facts or make things personal.
It’s just a professional line and how you say it. And that’s why it’s hard for a school to work with fans who want to grab a mic. Please do not take the this as me accusing RR of being unprofessional. Again, I am not familiar with their show and what they say.
I am curious how the interaction got them to this point, though.
They changed it during Covid, and stuck with it.
There were so many kids after the game this past Sunday waiting to meet the players and run on the field, only to be told that “kids’ day” happens before the game; not after. I think enough people complained at that moment that they let the few kids left onto the field for a little bit.
It’s not surprising though. There are two to three ladies who spend every game telling kids that they can’t toss a tennis ball up against a brick wall, or they toss a ball under the bleachers. I’m glad my boys are now old enough to stay at home by themselves, because it got to the point that they would beg us not to go to games anymore. There’s only so much sitting still kids can handle, and families (who bring in younger generations of fans) notice.
It's not a guess.. that's what happened..
Someone loosely attached to the admin doesn't get along with one of the show creators on a personal basis, and so the university thinks it's a good idea to torpedo the only real fan-centric coverage of UL athletics.
It's more small-time, good ole boy BS
You know those schools in Disney movies where there's one old guy booster who tries to flex on the school admin? Hoosiers, Glory Road, We Are Marshall, Remember the Titans..
That's us. We're Texas Western.
Staffers harrassed me a few times Sunday trying to get to my seats to make sure I had a ticket to walk to the section I was going to.
I understand they are trying to do a job but someone instructed them to do what they are doing. In my opinion, its just another thing the administration is doing to inconvenience fans.
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