G5- P5 Power Struggle

[Duckster]

Its time the powers that be stop pretending the amateur model is still a thing. Figure out how to employ the football players and not every other sport on campus. NIL is raw capitalism at work but this business of asking donors to directly pay for players is ridiculous considering the money flowing around college football. Just allocate some dollars to paying the players a salary and lower the number non revenue of sports required to help offset the expenses. Or have donors up donations towards the non revenue sports. Donors are taxpayers and vice versa, there's a limit to how much we can donate and pay taxes to support all these sports demands.

[BabbForHeisman]

And to placate RP posters

Vic, do you sign up for screen names just so that everyone who has you on ignore is forced to read your posts again?

[Esqueleto]

Its time the powers that be stop pretending the amateur model is still a thing. Figure out how to employ the football players and not every other sport on campus. NIL is raw capitalism at work but this business of asking donors to directly pay for players is ridiculous considering the money flowing around college football. Just allocate some dollars to paying the players a salary and lower the number non revenue of sports required to help offset the expenses. Or have donors up donations towards the non revenue sports. Donors are taxpayers and vice versa, there's a limit to how much we can donate and pay taxes to support all these sports demands.

Amen

[Clutch0364]

Its time the powers that be stop pretending the amateur model is still a thing. Figure out how to employ the football players and not every other sport on campus. NIL is raw capitalism at work but this business of asking donors to directly pay for players is ridiculous considering the money flowing around college football. Just allocate some dollars to paying the players a salary and lower the number non revenue of sports required to help offset the expenses. Or have donors up donations towards the non revenue sports. Donors are taxpayers and vice versa, there's a limit to how much we can donate and pay taxes to support all these sports demands.

Make all athletes employees but take away the scholarships. Make them pay for school like every other student.

[CajunT]

“Multiple Group of Five coaches tell Yahoo Sports that Power Five programs, having hit their NCAA-mandated 85 scholarship limit, are adding players as “walk-ons” with collectives footing the bill for a scholarship through NIL. The NCAA permits at least 30 walk-ons.”

This is a huge issue.

Yes, they are basically taking athletes we would be signing and offering them a tryout for $30K in the spring or fall, then cover the cost of scholarship with a NIL collective fund. They can circumvent of the 85 scholarship limit as you stated and the NCAA won't do anything about it. Unlimited scholarships were done away with because athletes could be replaced and lost education opportunities. Now it seems education and the advancements in education opportunities for student athletes, specifically for minorities is simply not important any longer and being replaced by income.

[CajunT]

Its time the powers that be stop pretending the amateur model is still a thing. Figure out how to employ the football players and not every other sport on campus. NIL is raw capitalism at work but this business of asking donors to directly pay for players is ridiculous considering the money flowing around college football. Just allocate some dollars to paying the players a salary and lower the number non revenue of sports required to help offset the expenses. Or have donors up donations towards the non revenue sports. Donors are taxpayers and vice versa, there's a limit to how much we can donate and pay taxes to support all these sports demands.

Agree, there should be a salary cap just like professional sports. Once the next separation takes place, this will be the next discussion.

[R1Letterman]

Vic, do you sign up for screen names just so that everyone who has you on ignore is forced to read your posts again?

How is this thread about a struggle. P5 has the power, problem solved. Ironically many on here want so badly to do things the way the p5 does (until its time to pay for those things) so their complaints about the p5 fall on deaf ears

[Cajunrunner]

Make all athletes employees but take away the scholarships. Make them pay for school like every other student.

Or how about those players that just want to be paid and be free agents from year to year and not worry about “playing school” can just form their own minor league.

Why bother wearing the name of a university across your chest when you really don’t want to attend class at said school or have any loyalty towards it beyond one year?

[JAB]

Vic, do you sign up for screen names just so that everyone who has you on ignore is forced to read your posts again?

. . . no . . .

[JAB]

How is this thread about a struggle. P5 has the power, problem solved. Ironically many on here want so badly to do things the way the p5 does (until its time to pay for those things) so their complaints about the p5 fall on deaf ears

Well, as I see it, people complain about the P5 because they can't be in the P5. If you can't be a part of the club, it's easy to complain about the club.

[R1Letterman]

Or how about those players that just want to be paid and be free agents from year to year and not worry about “playing school” can just form their own minor league.

Why bother wearing the name of a university across your chest when you really don’t want to attend class at said school or have any loyalty towards it beyond one year?

Because it is not a financially lucrative endeavor for the potential league creator. Nfl wants the freebees.
Even minor league baseball recently had a dramatic decrease in number of teams

[R1Letterman]

Well, as I see it, people complain about the P5 because they can't be in the P5. If you can't be a part of the club, it's easy to complain about the club.

Cough cough sounds like marlin haters cough cough

[R1Letterman]

Yes, they are basically taking athletes we would be signing and offering them a tryout for $30K in the spring or fall, then cover the cost of scholarship with a NIL collective fund. They can circumvent of the 85 scholarship limit as you stated and the NCAA won't do anything about it. Unlimited scholarships were done away with because athletes could be replaced and lost education opportunities. Now it seems education and the advancements in education opportunities for student athletes, specifically for minorities is simply not important any longer and being replaced by income.

Hard to buhleeve many p5 baseball wasnt already doing this. Since they didnt have to follow "full counter" they were able to skew financial aid and "academic" scholarships for players with poor grades, no competition for that schol and no audits by ncaa

[R1Letterman]

These part time jobs at so called baseball training academies were basically NIL as well. As well as illegal early practices

[RaginReview]

Cough cough sounds like marlin haters cough cough

You mean people that voluntarily don't join the basketball booster club?