Yes, and he played 1 P5 in 2020 and 1 P5 in 2021, UL ranked both seasons. In 2021 UL won 12 games and lost at Texas. The difference, only 1 loss during the season and won the conference championship. That is the path, not playing multiple P5 programs on the road. Beating a P5 on the road is great, but it's not the model needed.