ULM profiting more?

[CajunT]

Losing to four P5 programs has no direct effect on winning a Sunbelt Conference Championship.

It could have a lateral effect if you lose confidence in yourself or your team, panic, and try to make too many changes mid season.

I doubt beating a couple three or four P5s would create overconfidence in conference.

Okay, so you are conflating two different discussions. I never said you cannot win a conference championship losing to P5 programs. Here's my point again, starting a season 1-4 or 0-4 because you are playing more than one guaranteed P5 money game may not stop a team from winning the conference championship, but it certainly reduces the odds that a team will overcome those obstacles to win the conference. It also does not help your top 25 resume. Billy Napier played one P5 game against Texas and lost. He did not lose another game the rest of the season and won the conference championship.

Now which model of scheduling gives you the best path or opportunity for a Conference Championship and a Top 25 Resume? Do I need to point out ULM's history over the past decade? No one is going to convince me their model of scheduling more than one, possibly three or more P5 guaranteed games is the right path. History does not back that claim.

[Turbine]

Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football

[RedTails]

Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football

I think their scheduling techniques are inconsequential compared to $25+ million generated via student fees yearly:

Student athletic fee plays important role with UCF's move to the Big 12

[CajunT]

Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football

That model, Bosie State or anything similar has been drastically altered with NIL. There is no going back. It's 2024.

[cajun4life]

If we are shifting this discussion to scheduling, then I’d love to see the SBC go to a 9 game SBC schedule. 1 P5, 2 G5 and the rest League play.

[Turbine]

I think their scheduling techniques are inconsequential compared to $25+ million generated via student fees yearly:

Student athletic fee plays important role with UCF's move to the Big 12

Their anytime anywhere model began well before the Big-12 move

Their student fee doubled and UL's current scheduling model won't improve Louisiana's glass ceiling beyond what it is now, 100% reliance on winning the conference outright.

Study the history portion of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football

[CajunT]

If we are shifting this discussion to scheduling, then I’d love to see the SBC go to a 9 game SBC schedule. 1 P5, 2 G5 and the rest League play.

That would be my preference as well.

[Policarp]

Doesn't help if you lose both and the manner in which we lost.

2 losses of any combination and chances for playoff drop to 0%. It's all about getting that G5 playoff spot, winning the conference championship is a given......playing multiple P5 road games does absolutely NOTHING to achieve the primary goal.

True.....you gain an extra half million or so after expenses. At the same time you are forfeiting any chance at making the playoffs and the mega payouts it offers as well as reputation gains for being in the playoffs. This is the national exposure we need.

Making the playoff is at minimum 100x more valuable in national reputation and at the minimum worth 50x more financially that winning 1 of 2 P5 games.

It would be nice to win more vs P5 but with how the current playoff $$$$$ are at stake .....playing multiple P5 is a terrible, absolutely horrendous business model in current environment.

[CajunNation]

There have been just as many schools with multiple P5s on schedule as those with only 1 that have made the NY6.

Having 1 or 2 P5s on the schedule will have NO affect on whether or not we make the CFP, NY6 or win a conference championship in most years.

... BUT beating a P5 transforms our program in the eyes of the rest of the country. We saw it happen.

...ALSO, using the 2 P5 model allows us to keep 1 payday game and use the 2nd P5 slot to work deals to bring P5 programs to Lourdes once in a while.


1 in-state FCS home
1 regional G5 rival home and home
2 P5
8 SBC

This is the perfect schedule for now.

[CajunT]

2 losses of any combination and chances for playoff drop to 0%. It's all about getting that G5 playoff spot, winning the conference championship is a given......playing multiple P5 road games does absolutely NOTHING to achieve the primary goal.

True.....you gain an extra half million or so after expenses. At the same time you are forfeiting any chance at making the playoffs and the mega payouts it offers as well as reputation gains for being in the playoffs. This is the national exposure we need.

Making the playoff is at minimum 100x more valuable in national reputation and at the minimum worth 50x more financially that winning 1 of 2 P5 games.

It would be nice to win more vs P5 but with how the current playoff $$$$$ are at stake .....playing multiple P5 is a terrible, absolutely horrendous business model in current environment.

That sums it up without beating a dead horse. Everyone else is entitled to their own opinion.

[CajunT]

How?

So, getting back to this original question. I did some digging around and asked a few questions. Conference Distributions (Non-Media and Non-Football Bowl) are exactly that, not part of the conference media share or bowl revenue. Some of the revenues share from the NCAA are formula driven based on the number of Student Athletes who receive Pell Grants, and other funding. Nothing can be done about that, but the money from the NCAA Tournament appearance will be payed out this year putting us near the top of the conference in revenue share.

[cajun4life]

There have been just as many schools with multiple P5s on schedule as those with only 1 that have made the NY6.

Having 1 or 2 P5s on the schedule will have NO affect on whether or not we make the CFP, NY6 or win a conference championship in most years.

... BUT beating a P5 transforms our program in the eyes of the rest of the country. We saw it happen.

...ALSO, using the 2 P5 model allows us to keep 1 payday game and use the 2nd P5 slot to work deals to bring P5 programs to Lourdes once in a while.


1 in-state FCS home
1 regional G5 rival home and home
2 P5
8 SBC

This is the perfect schedule for now.

NO MORE FCS PROGRAMS!