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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    Beat a ranked team with a media darling, surf the heck out that wave. Brock Purdy was supposedly a big deal. Media loved him. In retrospect, yes he was and is a big deal.

    Look at the last OOC game Alabama lost until Texas. Constantly brought up ULM.

    UL needs to figure out multiple issues quick or we’ll really be on par with ULM.
    I think that's a different discussion in contrast to a scheduling strategy. There is no debate that defeating a P5 program gives your program resume a boast. But scheduling to give your program the best chance to compete for a conference championship doesn't require scheduling multiple P5 programs yearly. That's what I disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    Also, remember, Iowa St. was in the B12 championship game that in 2020. They had really good season that helped keep us in the top 20. They lost to Ok 27-20 or thereabouts.
    Yes, no debate. Now does it require UL to schedule multiple guaranteed P5 games a season to achieve that goal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Policarp View Post
    ULM budgets the full 3% max allowed; UL only budgets 2%.
    That 1% for UL is $10-12,000,000 less than max allowed.

    So when UL is over budget by 8 million.......they were actually under full max budget allowed by 2-4 million.

    Why does UL only budget 66% of the state max allowable funds? No clue. My best guess is.....
    LTURd"s max 3% and our budgeted 2% are nearly the same value. UL is roughly 1/3 larger.

    UL.has been under budgeting for years.....they only budget for 2% of revenue vs the allowable 3%. In the past 2 decades......they were under max allowable budget roughly $150,000,000
    UL has not taken the transfer allowed by the state yearly allowed for a number of years now under Dr. Savoie. ULM and Louisiana Tech continue to take that institutional support. Dr. Savoie said from the beginning that if Athletics was to move forward it would have to fund itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I think that's a different discussion in contrast to a scheduling strategy. There is no debate that defeating a P5 program gives your program resume a boast. But scheduling to give your program the best chance to compete for a conference championship doesn't require scheduling multiple P5 programs yearly. That's what I disagree with.
    ...and scheduling 2 P5's per year hurt doesn't your chances for a Conference Championship either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    ...and scheduling 2 P5's per year hurt doesn't your chances for a Conference Championship either.
    Doesn't help if you lose both and the manner in which we lost.

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    Losing to four P5 programs has no direct effect on winning a Sunbelt Conference Championship.

    It could have a lateral effect if you lose confidence in yourself or your team, panic, and try to make too many changes mid season.

    I doubt beating a couple three or four P5s would create overconfidence in conference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Losing to four P5 programs has no direct effect on winning a Sunbelt Conference Championship.

    It could have a lateral effect if you lose confidence in yourself or your team, panic, and try to make too many changes mid season.

    I doubt beating a couple three or four P5s would create overconfidence in conference.
    Okay, so you are conflating two different discussions. I never said you cannot win a conference championship losing to P5 programs. Here's my point again, starting a season 1-4 or 0-4 because you are playing more than one guaranteed P5 money game may not stop a team from winning the conference championship, but it certainly reduces the odds that a team will overcome those obstacles to win the conference. It also does not help your top 25 resume. Billy Napier played one P5 game against Texas and lost. He did not lose another game the rest of the season and won the conference championship.

    Now which model of scheduling gives you the best path or opportunity for a Conference Championship and a Top 25 Resume? Do I need to point out ULM's history over the past decade? No one is going to convince me their model of scheduling more than one, possibly three or more P5 guaranteed games is the right path. History does not back that claim.

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    Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football
    I think their scheduling techniques are inconsequential compared to $25+ million generated via student fees yearly:

    Student athletic fee plays important role with UCF's move to the Big 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Study the short history of the UCF program and ask yourself if they would be where they are using UL scheduling techniques.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCF_Knights_football
    That model, Bosie State or anything similar has been drastically altered with NIL. There is no going back. It's 2024.

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