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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    I'm thinking in terms of generating fan engagement (that barely exists now) for the benefit of the school. I don't know where you're going with this other than trying to pick an argument.
    Stop with your BS pick an argument. If you can't figure out where I am going with the posts I made, it is because you chose to be obtuse. And being obtuse is your prerogative. But own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    I'm thinking in terms of generating fan engagement (that barely exists now) for the benefit of the school. I don't know where you're going with this other than trying to pick an argument.
    It's a symbiotic relationship between business and university, and both gain from this venture. Some don't think in these terms only what the benefit is to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Stop with your BS pick an argument. If you can't figure out where I am going with the posts I made, it is because you chose to be obtuse. And being obtuse is your prerogative. But own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Malkinson View Post
    It's a symbiotic relationship between business and university, and both gain from this venture. Some don't think in these terms only what the benefit is to me.
    I believe it was a great assist by the University for the first one. However, with our current resources, should the University keep utilizing its resources on this one for profit restaurant who has already indicated that its not worth their effort and its too much trouble for them to do it, or try and marshal its resources to other restaurants who make take on the project as their own.

    It would really be nice to know what the efforts of the university were in this initial event in order to fairly judge either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    So now its the university's fault fore trying and showing a business for profit how to make more profit and then not continuing to utilize the university's resources for the benefit of that for profit restaurant. Ok, now I see how you think.
    A One-and-Done mentality when the goal should be sustainability.

    Why have a job fair as opposed to "we are done teaching you." Self sustanance isn't a one off, sustainablity is the goal.

    The restaurant asked for more training and got no response.

    In the long run the university is the benificiary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Stop with your BS pick an argument. If you can't figure out where I am going with the posts I made, it is because you chose to be obtuse. And being obtuse is your prerogative. But own it.
    Think what you want on that. I could care less. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you.

    I'll stick to what I said in that it is not the restaurant's responsibility to promote the athletic brand on behalf of the university as much as it is the university's responsibility to do the same and attract new fans. The entire premise of that watch party was to provide a venue to help the university bring in new donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Stop making the university the victim. They're not. And no, I'm not using "lazy" in this discussion." It's in front of all of us to see.

    If the alumni association reached out to the restaurant to do a watch party, it is not of the obligation for the restaurant to carry the rest of the weight because it worked one time. It is the job of the alumni association or any other university association to be persistent in continuing these endeavors in order to recruit more fans and encourage them to give/donate to their respected foundations. Not picking up the phone a second time is on the university. It's their promotion.
    Interns must of switched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Think what you want on that. I could care less. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you.

    I'll stick to what I said in that it is not the restaurant's responsibility to promote the athletic brand on behalf of the university as much as it is the university's responsibility to do the same and attract new fans. The entire premise of that watch party was to provide a venue to help the university bring in new donors.
    Now that is L.A.Z.Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    But didn't the restaurant who did it say "it was not worth the trouble and effort"

    You throw "easy" and "lazy" around like they mean something while at the same time appear to be too lazy to look at what is easy to see in this discussion. Without more information as to why the restaurant felt it was too much trouble to do it again and exactly what they are requesting be shifted to the university, this is just another thread to trash the university. The Good Lawd knows we have enough ammunition in that respect without possibly making up something that is really not there.
    I thought this was a thread about the future of Cajun Nation…

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelincajun View Post
    I thought this was a thread about the future of Cajun Nation…
    It is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    Now that is L.A.Z.Y.
    Enough with the personal insults. Let's discuss starting now.

    UL is the ultimate benefactor of these watch parties. Sure the restaurant makes money, but ultimately the alumni association and other entities within the university are the ones that should be pushing for them above anyone else. Even if the restaurant makes money off of these events, the university entities should still be showing face to give fans opportunities to donate/give money/engage.

    And to be fair, I'm not being obtuse when I say I don't see where the school benefits if restaurants are throwing watch parties and the AA and RCAF don't participate in those. They need to show face at all of these events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Enough with the personal insults. Let's discuss starting now.

    UL is the ultimate benefactor of these watch parties. Sure the restaurant makes money, but ultimately the alumni association and other entities within the university are the ones that should be pushing for them above anyone else. Even if the restaurant makes money off of these events, the university entities should still be showing face to give fans opportunities to donate/give money/engage.
    I don't disagree with any of the general conclusions you raise. However, without a specific description of what exactly the University provided for this venture, it is impossible to judge either side. That has been my position from the beginning and it will not change.

    For hypothetical sake, lets say it took 1000 hours of university time and $100,000 of cash. Is your position the same?

    One side or the other may be unreasonable here, but with the information we have, no one will ever know. It's not fair to judge without accurate information. At that point, you may become part of the problem as opposed to the solution.

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