Grasp the Difference

[CajunT]

I don't disagree with your super league conclusion, but the SL will be more likely to include Clemson, Florida State and Oklahoma State than Vanderbilt, Purdue and Mississippi State.

I think that is correct Charlie. There is no way many of these programs will be able to fund a number of the requirements that they are discussing including unlimited scholarships or pay every athlete a yearly income of $30K plus.

[SlickRick]

I think that is correct Charlie. There is no way many of these programs will be able to fund a number of the requirements that they are discussing including unlimited scholarships or pay every athlete a yearly income of $30K plus.

It all depends on how much money is thrown at the SL members from the networks and or streaming services.

[Duggie35]

The term Student Athlete should never be uttered again by any University administrator, anyone associated with the NCAA or anyone in the media!

[Turbine]

Student Athlete

[RaginCajun77]

I think that is correct Charlie. There is no way many of these programs will be able to fund a number of the requirements that they are discussing including unlimited scholarships or pay every athlete a yearly income of $30K plus.

The super league concept is filled with flawed thinking. The SL universities will need boat loads of cash from collectives for NIL offers and athletic foundations for coaches/facilties to win SL Championships. We are no longer in the days of the "bagman", the SL universties will have to find ways to pay their athletes or expect transfers. Today, SL university collectives and athletic foundations are fishing for $$$ from the same donors, that isn't sustainable.

The SL universities discussing unlimited scholarships for athletes or paying every athlete a yearly income of $30K plus becomes an incredibly slippery slope when compared to non-student athletes. At some point I expect non-student athletes to push back against these universities due to the focus on athletics over academics.

Finally, the SL will hit networks and streaming services for big money broadcast rights deals. However, the networks and streaming services will want top tier games filling their broadcast schedule for top dollar. The SL will lose its luster when you have a lot more .500 teams.

[JMV JustMyView]

Student Athlete

School apparently doesn't matter anymore.

[Arkstfan]

If it evolves into semi-pro, then why even have the football teams associated with those schools? Have those athletes who desire such a setup play on teams that don’t bear a university name on the jersey.

And then hey! They don’t even have to worry about going to class!

Those athletes who still want to be actual student athletes can still get athletics scholarship to the university of their choice that sponsors football, and I’m not even opposed to some sort of NIL with rules and boundaries. However, the no-sit transfer portal needs to be eliminated. You want to transfer, you sit out a year.

Maybe an exception if the head coach that recruited you opts to leave to go to another school.

There have been high level folks talking about the possibility of something similar to the Major League Soccer model. Technically speaking MLS teams don't have "owners", the league owns the teams and hires the players. Teams have "operators" you buy the right to operate a team in a market and the league gives you a budget but the operator is allowed to spend above the budget for a number of slots.

Basically, schools would sell the right to operate a pro-football and maybe a men's basketball team using the school name, logos, and facilities. The school would most likely get an upfront payment then some percentage of various revenue streams.

Freed of football and the big spending on men's basketball, neither sport would be offered by the school. School in theory is freed of counting football and men's basketball as educational opportunities and therefore excluded from Title IX. School athletic departments still have some sports with big followings at least in some areas like baseball, softball, hockey, volleyball, and women's basketball. Since the school is getting a cut of gross revenue more schools can take the Stanford and Ivy approach of offering more sports rather than figuring out how to pay for gold leaf for the Amazon Rosewood lockers with magnetic phone chargers and usb ports for 105 football players or paying to charter a jet for women's basketball because men's basketball travels by jet charter.

[Arkstfan]

It all depends on how much money is thrown at the SL members from the networks and or streaming services.

The financial side is going to be fascinating.

The big run up of money was fueled by carriage fees. ESPN went from demanding 10 cents to something $7.65 per subscriber. If you've got cable, satellite, streaming

Your cable bill is
$7.64 for ESPN
$2.20 for TNT
$2.00 for Fox News
$1.79 for NFL Network
$1.04 for FS1
$1.04 for ESPN2
$0.99 for TBS
$0.93 for SEC Network*
$0.67 for ACC Network*
$0.59 for Big Ten Network*

* These are averages, for example BTN charges 10 cents to be shown in Arkansas and Louisiana but $1.50 to be on in states with a Big Ten team. Adding California, Oregon and Washington will be massive. SECN reportedly is 25 cents in non-SEC states and $1.30 in SEC states, adding Texas and OU only brings new SECN money in Oklahoma.

That is on average $215.52 per year per subscriber. Pay tv linear distributors lost 2.3 million subscribers in the first three months of 2023, that's around $240 million in annual revenue lost for ESPN and ESPN2.

Big XII went to market early and it paid off. Pac-12 opted to wait thinking time passing would drive up their value and by the time they went to market, the bean counters at ESPN and Fox were sitting around asking if they were going to end up upside down on existing deals and low balled Pac-12 fearing they couldn't afford more or could but the ROI would drop and Wall Street would pound them (see Disney stock, no matter what the political nuts tell you, worries about ESPN being unable to maintain its ridiculously high profitability has been a big factor in the stock price.

If future revenue is more dependent on a subscription model, that's fine if you are LSU or Alabama, not so great if you are Mississippi State or Vandy.

[Arkstfan]

The super league concept is filled with flawed thinking. The SL universities will need boat loads of cash from collectives for NIL offers and athletic foundations for coaches/facilties to win SL Championships. We are no longer in the days of the "bagman", the SL universties will have to find ways to pay their athletes or expect transfers. Today, SL university collectives and athletic foundations are fishing for $$$ from the same donors, that isn't sustainable.

The SL universities discussing unlimited scholarships for athletes or paying every athlete a yearly income of $30K plus becomes an incredibly slippery slope when compared to non-student athletes. At some point I expect non-student athletes to push back against these universities due to the focus on athletics over academics.

Finally, the SL will hit networks and streaming services for big money broadcast rights deals. However, the networks and streaming services will want top tier games filling their broadcast schedule for top dollar. The SL will lose its luster when you have a lot more .500 teams.

I'm skeptical the future is based on the "tip jar" model of NIL collectives. It will be paid directly by the schools and it might not be possible to get $9 million to coach Kentucky football in the future. Notice coaches are screaming at fans to fund NIL collectives. They aren't stupid. They know the coaching budget is the biggest expenditure that can be redirected to paying players.

[Louisiana84]

So, university presidents are okay with being a farm system for the NFL? The woke professors are going to look the other way? The researchers are going to be okay with this?

[UL_Cajuns]

I'm skeptical the future is based on the "tip jar" model of NIL collectives. It will be paid directly by the schools and it might not be possible to get $9 million to coach Kentucky football in the future. Notice coaches are screaming at fans to fund NIL collectives. They aren't stupid. They know the coaching budget is the biggest expenditure that can be redirected to paying players.

As it should be. Coaches are making way too much money on the collegiate level. The buy outs are even more ridiculous. Some get paid millions to fail at their job. Make that make sense!

[Duggie35]

If I'm not mistaken, a coach (or anyone) making $400,000 a year would be in the top
4% or 5% (or maybe even lower) of wage earners in the country. There is no logical reason to pay a coach $3,000,000, $5,000,000 or $10,000,000 a year? We all know why it's done and in a free country it's a great thing for those that can get it. But it really makes no sense. Especially by institutions that are supposed to be bastions of knowledge and educators of our youth!

[JAB]

If I'm not mistaken, a coach (or anyone) making $400,000 a year would be in the top
4% or 5% (or maybe even lower) of wage earners in the country. There is no logical reason to pay a coach $3,000,000, $5,000,000 or $10,000,000 a year? We all know why it's done and in a free country it's a great thing for those that can get it. But it really makes no sense. Especially by institutions that are supposed to be bastions of knowledge and educators of our youth!

Under this logic, it also makes no logical sense for Joe Burrow to get paid $55 million per year ($150,684 per day/$104.64 per minute). Is it a crazy amount of money? Sure, but the market dictates what the job is worth, regardless of where it falls in the percentage of US wage earners.

[R1Letterman]

Student Athlete

Can we still use alumni poster

[R1Letterman]

Under this logic, it also makes no logical sense for Joe Burrow to get paid $55 million per year ($150,684 per day/$104.64 per minute). Is it a crazy amount of money? Sure, but the market dictates what the job is worth, regardless of where it falls in the percentage of US wage earners.

It is too high, since his compatriots in his generation dont want any indebtedness or to have mistakes held against them why should they receive lifelong windfalls for a few months of "good work"