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  1. #91

    Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB View Post
    To be fair, several people previously commented on this and other threads saying to embrace the suck or preach the suck or whatever. That didn’t just come out of nowhere. And Vic’s frequent point on here is that RP users are too negative, rather than giving the university and the coaches a chance to show that they know what they are doing.

    The rest of RP’s general point is that Vic is the one who causes negativity because he picks fights on RP. Here’s the problem with that idea: Vic is negative TOWARD RP, whereas RP is negative TOWARD THE UNIVERSITY. If I understand Vic’s point (which is a very big if), it’s one thing to constantly complain about the athletic department (what almost everyone does on here) but it’s an entirely different thing to complain about RP (what Vic does on here).
    Go read those posts again. They're personal attacks. Then, when called out, we have to hear "cry me a river" or "you don't want to debate because feelings" nonsense which takes the conversation even more south than previously claimed. It's no coincidence that the "ignore" button is popular around this topic not because other posters refuse to debate, but no one wants to put up with that elementary school foolishness. Wash, rinse, repeat.

  2. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Go read those posts again. They're personal attacks. Then, when called out, we have to hear "cry me a river" or "you don't want to debate because feelings" nonsense which takes the conversation even more south than previously claimed. It's no coincidence that the "ignore" button is popular around this topic not because other posters refuse to debate, but no one wants to put up with that elementary school foolishness. Wash, rinse, repeat.
    I don't disagree with you, and it's obviously unproductive if the ultimate goal is to have some sort of discussion about the university.

    My point is that the personal attacks come from both sides. Look at how many people tell him to f off, how many people call him stupid or unintelligent, or how many people call him names. If you want to complain about unproductive, personal attacks, then complain about all of them.

    There might be more anti-Vic people on the board than pro-Vic people (A LOT more), but that doesn't mean that the anti-Vic people are more virtuous, more correct, or more justified in what they say.

  3. #93

    Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB View Post
    I don't disagree with you, and it's obviously unproductive if the ultimate goal is to have some sort of discussion about the university.

    My point is that the personal attacks come from both sides. Look at how many people tell him to f off, how many people call him stupid or unintelligent, or how many people call him names. If you want to complain about unproductive, personal attacks, then complain about all of them.

    There might be more anti-Vic people on the board than pro-Vic people (A LOT more), but that doesn't mean that the anti-Vic people are more virtuous, more correct, or more justified in what they say.
    Posters here don't just act that way freely. There's always that first finger that pushes the first domino that causes the rest to fall.

  4. #94

    Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Posters here don't just act that way freely.
    Your posts don't type themselves.

  5. #95

    Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    This is a forum of fans. This is not a forum of admin/coaches/players that Vic seems so adamant to champion on behalf of. Admin/coaches/players will come and go. Is Vic's fandom just as transient as the personnel that make up our programs? Who knows.

    But coming here to fill an antagonistic role won't win you a lot of friends with said fans. He's a big boy, he understands this.


  6. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTails View Post
    This is a forum of fans. This is not a forum of admin/coaches/players that Vic seems so adamant to champion on behalf of. Admin/coaches/players will come and go. Is Vic's fandom just as transient as the personnel that make up our programs? Who knows.

    But coming here to fill an antagonistic role won't win you a lot of friends with said fans. He's a big boy, he understands this.
    The problem in all of this at the bare roots is that we are in a critical role as an athletic program right now. Yes, we are building a new stadium. And I'm ecstatic that we are in the middle of a $20 million capital campaign (which we will address in the next episode). And the new ticket management team will do wonders for our ticket sales efforts (which we have talked about constantly). But here are the other realities:

    -We just experienced our 2nd straight losing season in football with a loss to a team who was FCS this time last year while two years removed from a Top 25 ranking and SBC Championship
    -We are still struggling to get fans to the football games
    -A HUGE portion of our fanbase feels outpriced and unwanted due to low fan engagement
    -We have people that live in Lafayette that didn't even know Cajun Field was getting a renovation
    -Our basketball program just went to the NCAA Tournament, and we sold the least amount of season tickets that I can remember outside of the COVID season
    -We are sitting at 6-5 in basketball and our attendance is 9th in the Sun Belt
    -We have fallen trap to the claw of NIL

    Those are just basic facts. There's no agenda behind it. I'm giving attendance numbers and W-L records that's simple data. So with the first few good topics I mentioned, we also mention the not so good topics that fans are talking about. If that is considered "preaching the suck," then so be it. It needs to be addressed and discussed. As a fan base, we have had the rug pulled from under us for so long in the past that if we don't address these topics; people will never some back. That's our alternative.

  7. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    JAB = Vic

    You can't make me believe otherwise.
    Definitely not true. Last time Vic signed up for a burner account, he outed himself in 4 posts. No way he could be running the JAB account. There are actually structured sentences and finished thought. That rules out Vic.

    Now is it a Vic-adjacent? Maybe. Maybe someone who Vic talks to a lot. Or maybe someone who has the same bird.

  8. Default Re: Only solution

    Quote Originally Posted by axg8750 View Post
    CajunVic needs to be removed from this board permanently.

    It is very obvious this would benefit all other posters and simple enough to accomplish.
    Nobody should be removed. Don’t like him , put him on ignore

  9. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman View Post
    Definitely not true. Last time Vic signed up for a burner account, he outed himself in 4 posts. No way he could be running the JAB account. There are actually structured sentences and finished thought. That rules out Vic.

    Now is it a Vic-adjacent? Maybe. Maybe someone who Vic talks to a lot. Or maybe someone who has the same bird.
    absolutely two different fellows. and jab is not vic-adjacent, either.

  10. #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonsissymia View Post
    absolutely two different fellows. and jab is not vic-adjacent, either.
    Maybe he just agrees with Vic a lot, which is more a problem for him personally anyway hahahahahaha

  11. Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB View Post
    I don't disagree with you, and it's obviously unproductive if the ultimate goal is to have some sort of discussion about the university.

    My point is that the personal attacks come from both sides. Look at how many people tell him to f off, how many people call him stupid or unintelligent, or how many people call him names. If you want to complain about unproductive, personal attacks, then complain about all of them.

    There might be more anti-Vic people on the board than pro-Vic people (A LOT more), but that doesn't mean that the anti-Vic people are more virtuous, more correct, or more justified in what they say.
    The majority of the board. That should tell you something.

  12. Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonsissymia View Post
    absolutely two different fellows. and jab is not vic-adjacent, either.
    And you would know because y’all worked together. We found that out yesterday.

    The bottom line is, CajunVictim and the people that are supporting his ridiculous behavior all know each other. No unbiased person comes here, reads his drivel and thinks “Yea, that guy is on the right side of history.”

  13. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    And you would know because y’all worked together. We found that out yesterday.

    The bottom line is, CajunVictim and the people that are supporting his ridiculous behavior all know each other. No unbiased person comes here, reads his drivel and thinks “Yea, that guy is on the right side of history.”
    If you go back and read my comments, you'll notice that I didn't say he's on the right side of history. I fully acknowledged that his posts often cross the line and are unproductive; however, I also said that if you're going to call out his posts for being bad, you should also look at your own which are equally bad.

    If you can't handle that simple critique, then you might be part of the problem.

  14. Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB View Post
    If you go back and read my comments, you'll notice that I didn't say he's on the right side of history. I fully acknowledged that his posts often cross the line and are unproductive; however, I also said that if you're going to call out his posts for being bad, you should also look at your own which are equally bad.

    If you can't handle that simple critique, then you might be part of the problem.
    I treat people the way they deserve to be treated. Neither of us threw the first punch at CajunVictim. However, he’s continually antagonized us and many others here. And I’m sure you’re aware of that, knowing him and all..

    On several occasion, I’ve tried to bury the hatchet. Gary is about the most docile, friendly, conflict-avoiding person you will ever meet. For HIM to be driven to the point of pushing back, it has gone too far. Only a fool would attempt to turn him into a sympathetic figure.

    He is a provocateur in a Kangol hat. Nothing more; nothing less.

  15. #105

    Default Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I treat people the way they deserve to be treated. Neither of us threw the first punch at CajunVictim. However, he’s continually antagonized us and many others here. And I’m sure you’re aware of that, knowing him and all..

    On several occasion, I’ve tried to bury the hatchet. Gary is about the most docile, friendly, conflict-avoiding person you will ever meet. For HIM to be driven to the point of pushing back, it has gone too far. Only a fool would attempt to turn him into a sympathetic figure.

    He is a provocateur in a Kangol hat. Nothing more; nothing less.
    I’m stealing “Provocateur in a Kangol Hat” and calling no take backs. Now I just have to decide if I want it to be the title of my multiplatinum album or the name of my New York Times bestselling novel.

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