UL's Assault on Greek Life Escalates

[RaginScotsman]

For anyone that can't see the screen grab, here's the text:

"UL has decided to strike again against Greek Life. Now that Family Weekend and Homecoming is over, they don't need Greeks anymore. UL has decided to place 3 Frats on Cease and Desist without any evidence and 1 Frat on Social Suspension for an entire year. These are also the largest frats on campus.

With this being said, these chapters won't be allowed to go tailgate and members will not be allowed to attend the Football game to support our athletes.

I would also like to clarify what happened the last time they decided to "shut down the Greeks" earlier on the semester. After Greeks made the news headlines, the university back tracked and said their intention wasn't to "not let us drink" , they just wanted to simply remind us about the rules. I can confirm this is false, because the Greek Dean went into the fraternity council meeting and said they were told by their hire ups to enforce all rules regarding drinking games. The way that I see this, is that their office started getting a whole bunch of calls and they decided to turn a blind eye.

The way I see all of this, is that since they couldn't get their way early on the semester, they are trying to shut down all the fraternities with false allegations. Just seems crazy how 3 of the 8 frats (who also happen to be the largest) get hit with the same "allegations" the same week. The 1 frat that got on Social Suspension, was due to an "unregistered event" that happened BEFORE homecoming week. But they decide to sanction them now (nearly 3 weeks after homecoming week).

Hope y'all could do some digging on this and help out the Greek community at UL."

Not sure what any of these are about. But whatever
violation happened before homecoming that’s being penalized now makes some sense. They had to review. Gather evidence. Make a ruling. Not defending anything but I married a Greek who was enrolled at UL in the not so distant past. We’re also friends with someone who was the president of a UL chapter of a sorority and employed by the university under Lindsey. Who we can all agree (and based on my conversations) is just terrible.

Not trying to stir it up. Just asking for info so I can understand.

Not sure what “cease desist” is but apparently it’s not a thing. Did they deny their status? Lose privileges? If so, what did they do?

Just trying to separate this email from football. Or what actually happened. Before the pitchforks get sharpened because they were out before. And I get it.

[UL_Cajuns]

Not sure what any of these are about. But whatever
violation happened before homecoming that’s being penalized now makes some sense. They had to review. Gather evidence. Make a ruling. Not defending anything but I married a Greek who was enrolled at UL in the not so distant past. We’re also friends with someone who was the president of a UL chapter of a sorority and employed by the university under Lindsey. Who we can all agree (and based on my conversations) is just terrible.

Not trying to stir it up. Just asking for info so I can understand.

Not sure what “cease desist” is but apparently it’s not a thing. Did they deny their status? Lose privileges? If so, what did they do?

Just trying to separate this email from football. Or what actually happened. Before the pitchforks get sharpened because they were out before. And I get it.

Get over it. The Greeks are a minority in the overall student population.
Embrace the entire student population at UL, not just the small Greek population who _____ and complain about everything. Sound like some entitled people now.

[RaginScotsman]

Get over it. The Greeks are a minority in the overall student population.
Embrace the entire student population at UL, not just the small Greek population who _____ and complain about everything. Sound like some entitled people now.

The chapters may be banned from having events if that is actually the case but their members can still attend. They are still students. And Greek sanction against a chapter can’t impact that. We need them there.

[zeppelincajun]

Get over it. The Greeks are a minority in the overall student population.
Embrace the entire student population at UL, not just the small Greek population who _____ and complain about everything. Sound like some entitled people now.

Yes! Let’s embrace the whole student population. The thousands of kids who fill up the student section every week! Oh wait….They don’t show up either. Maybe they are using their voice as well and you just aren’t listening.

[UL_Cajuns]

The chapters may be banned from having events if that is actually the case but their members can still attend. They are still students. And Greek sanction against a chapter can’t impact that. We need them there.

That’s the point. The Greeks don’t represent but a small % of the students.
Welcome all the students!!!
Greek, religious organizations, honor organizations, student organizations etc. the Greeks are a small % of students. There are many other great student organizations at UL. If Greeks want to boycott their fellow student athletes then so be it but it’s not right. Let the other students and other organizations support our athletes. Geaux Cajuns!

[CockyCajun]

Get over it. The Greeks are a minority in the overall student population.
Embrace the entire student population at UL, not just the small Greek population who _____ and complain about everything. Sound like some entitled people now.

The U has almost accomplished its goal. I remember when the greeks had their signs painted permanently on the student side wall. That is until the U kicked them out to the hill and made the wall a hall of fame wall. Then they kicked them off the hill and made it kid zone. Now they just want the greeks gone.

[UL_Cajuns]

The U has almost accomplished its goal. I remember when the greeks had their signs painted permanently on the student side wall. That is until the U kicked them out to the hill and made the wall a hall of fame wall. Then they kicked them off the hill and made it kid zone. Now they just want the greeks gone.

Ima former Greek and I understand, but it is what it is with the times. The constant _____ing and moaning doesn’t help. adapt. If you can’t change and adapt then you fall behind and miss out on things.
You think this country is what it was 20 years ago? NO!

[zeppelincajun]

Ima former Greek and I understand, but it is what it is with the times. The constant _____ing and moaning doesn’t help. adapt. If you can’t change and adapt then you fall behind and miss out on things.
You think this country is what it was 20 years ago? NO!

You know what does help? 90% of your student population never setting foot in Cajun Field after the initial largest freshmen class photo op. Great job admins!

[UL_Cajuns]

You know what does help? 90% of your student population never setting foot in Cajun Field after the initial largest freshmen class photo op. Great job admins!

So how can we change that? What are you going to do?

[zeppelincajun]

So how can we change that? What are you going to do?

What do you think we should do? You are ridiculing our students who are vocal saying they are _____ing and moaning. What about the other 16,500 who have silently not been showing up for their classmates? You say we should listen to their voice. Why aren’t you listening? They are using it even if you don’t hear it. Why isn’t the university changing and adapting?

Maggard complained in an interview a few weeks back about our “negative” fans claiming they were doing more harm than good. That’s shortsighted. He is talking about the few people left who care enough to even bother. The rest of this community is checked out and on to other things. Why are they checked out? Does it have to do with us hiring an unqualified coach, zero promoting, ticketing issues, gameday operations failures, etc etc? Nope. It’s those pesky negative fans. You are basically throwing out the student version of this argument and it’s weak and tired.

[UL_Cajuns]

What do you think we should do? You are ridiculing our students who are vocal saying they are _____ing and moaning. What about the other 16,500 who have silently not been showing up for their classmates? You say we should listen to their voice. Why aren’t you listening? They are using it even if you don’t hear it. Why isn’t the university changing and adapting?

Maggard complained in an interview a few weeks back about our “negative” fans claiming they were doing more harm than good. That’s shortsighted. He is talking about the few people left who care enough to even bother. The rest of this community is checked out and on to other things. Why are they checked out? Does it have to do with us hiring an unqualified coach, zero promoting, ticketing issues, gameday operations failures, etc etc? Nope. It’s those pesky negative fans. You are basically throwing out the student version of this argument and it’s weak and tired.

Glad you care. That is a start!
The point of my posts is to not boycott the senior students on senior day which is what this thread seems to be wanting to do over some stupid ass Greek situation.
Do we really like the HC hire? No! But we know he is here for at least one more year so let’s as fans do what we can to support these players. Maybe Des figures it out in year 3. Maybe we get to a Bowl and win it?
Trust me you do not want to be like it was in my college years during the Baldwin Era. You couldn’t even smell a bowl much less a winning season!
Support your university!

[zeppelincajun]

Glad you care. That is a start!
The point of my posts is to not boycott the senior students on senior day which is what this thread seems to be wanting to do over some stupid ass Greek situation.
Do we really like the HC hire? No! But we know he is here for at least one more year so let’s as fans do what we can to support these players. Maybe Des figures it out in year 3. Maybe we get to a Bowl and win it?
Trust me you do not want to be like it was in my college years during the Baldwin Era. You couldn’t even smell a bowl much less a winning season!
Support your university!

1. We have to stop self imposing a tether to the Baldwin era. It’s not fair to our current student athletes and fanbase to look at “bowl eligibility” seasons and say, “wow. We would have killed for this 20+ years ago” and act like that’s good enough. It’s not. The standard has been raised since then. We have people donating to RCAF, and they are being told those donations are an investment. Bowl eligibility was something to be excited about in 2005. It’s 2023. In your words, let’s change and adapt. Let’s recognize our new standard and let that be our metric of success.
2. “Support your university.” I do. I buy season tickets. I give what I can to RCAF. However, this is NOT the pitch we should be making to the community. That implies this is a charity and people should attend/give out of the goodness of their hearts and because it’s the “right” thing to do. While we may have a few thousand left who do for that reason, it is no way to grow our BUSINESS. I’ll say it again: this is a business. Not a charity. Let’s act like it. Which brings me to point 3.
3. Let’s run this thing like a business. You want to tell 18-21 year olds to change and adapt to the times? How about decision makers at this university? We are still using setups and pricing models for tailgating that were enacted in the Hud era. We are still acting like there is demand for the entire Cajun Field parking lot to be an RCAF lot despite the RCAF steadily scraping by at 2,000 members. If you run a business and you have 6 of your 30 tables seated and a customer complains that their dish is undercooked, do you scold them and tell them they are the reason your restaurant is empty? Why are we hellbent on turning away the few people left with an interest? Great student crowd to start last season and we corralled them in 2 sections and lined the sections with security like a pen. Closing game against Georgia Southern I took a pic of a security guard standing immediately behind the couple students we had on the rail just waiting to jump them for saying the wrong thing. What BUSINESS operates this way? None. It’s embarrassing.

I’m not saying one way or the other if students should boycott. If they think it’s in their best interest, so be it. This university is not acting in the best interest of what little it has left in terms of athletic support. I’ll most likely never stop, but it’s exhausting to keep propping this thing up because “it’s the right thing to do” when the people who are actually in charge wanna cut the legs out anyway.