Cannot defend the trajectory of the program

[Jacob81]

Not quite.

Napier has played the 16th most difficult SOS in FBS
Des has played the 121st most difficult SOS in FBS

Napier started from scratch, with 33% of his starting 22 being Freshmen and Soph.
Des was handed a loaded roster (and yes, built a lot of that cupboard himself)

This comparison needs to stop.

Loaded cupboard??

Minus an all American guard and future starting tackle/guard. 2 RBs Johnson to Florida Bailey to TCU. WR and corner to LSU. LB to Kansas. So on and so on. Also graduated the most successful QB in program history.

Not only did Dez take over a program that lost a lot of stars to graduation he also started coaching when the portal crap started. If billy would have stayed maybe all those players would have as well, we will never know that. We also don’t know who would have portaled out under any other new coach. But the facts are, cupboard wasn’t close to loaded.

Give him time. I’d like to see a change at DC and would like to see Dez hire or elevate someone on staff to OC.

[ManAboutTown]

Loaded cupboard??

Minus an all American guard and future starting tackle/guard. 2 RBs Johnson to Florida Bailey to TCU. WR and corner to LSU. LB to Kansas. So on and so on. Also graduated the most successful QB in program history.

Not only did Dez take over a program that lost a lot of stars to graduation he also started coaching when the portal crap started. If billy would have stayed maybe all those players would have as well, we will never know that. We also don’t know who would have portaled out under any other new coach. But the facts are, cupboard wasn’t close to loaded.

Give him time. I’d like to see a change at DC and would like to see Dez hire or elevate someone on staff to OC.

So then you're down on Tim and Des' recruiting then? Because they recruited the majority of the kids Billy left them. And notice I said cupboard, meaning players that would be ready to contribute soon, not necessarily players that were already starting. Ya know, like Zeon freaking Chriss...

Billy Napier took over a program with 30 scholarship players less than the rest of his peers, and in 1 season turned that into an 11 win team. I don't want to hear anything about Des' circumstances after two full seasons. Nape took over a dumpster fire with scattered talent that needed development. Des took over a program that he was intimately familiar with, kids that HE recruited, and loaded with young talent. And played two weak schedules. The results speak for themselves.

And to be clear, I'm not saying fire Mike Des. I personally love the guy, just like the majority of people. But he's going to have to cut bait with his DC and possibly a few others. We may need a new S&C coach. This team is not tough and IMO, that's a reflection of Nabors. And as someone who wanted Lamar here, he should have been fired after that embarrassing performance at ODU. Things like that, you can't unsee. Problem is, Des is a loyal guy, and it will be hard to fire his friends, teammates and colleagues that said YES to him when he needed them to round out a staff in a hurry. I'm very cognizant of the human element here.

[ULvictory]

Loaded cupboard??

Minus an all American guard and future starting tackle/guard. 2 RBs Johnson to Florida Bailey to TCU. WR and corner to LSU. LB to Kansas. So on and so on. Also graduated the most successful QB in program history.

Not only did Dez take over a program that lost a lot of stars to graduation he also started coaching when the portal crap started. If billy would have stayed maybe all those players would have as well, we will never know that. We also don’t know who would have portaled out under any other new coach. But the facts are, cupboard wasn’t close to loaded.

Give him time. I’d like to see a change at DC and would like to see Dez hire or elevate someone on staff to OC.

Even with what we have now, we shouldn’t be 5-6.

[Jacob81]

Even with what we have now, we shouldn’t be 5-6.

Agree. That’s why I said he should make changes to the play callers.

[ULvictory]

Agree. That’s why I said he should make changes to the play callers.

Des is gonna have some tough decisions to make

[ULGrad@HOU]

This team is underperforming. You have to be blind not to see it. That is where we are now after 2 years. To say it will improve is pure speculation based on nothing.
There is a gigantic difference in the teams under Napier and what we have now. We are playing teams in our schedule that aren't very good, and we can't even beat them! What does that say about us? Come on, figure it out. We are wasting valuable time for our program, time we can't afford. Dr. Maggard has often stated winning the Sun Belt is the immediate goal, and we aren't close.

[ManAboutTown]

This team is underperforming. You have to be blind not to see it. That is where we are now after 2 years. To say it will improve is pure speculation based on nothing.
There is a gigantic difference in the teams under Napier and what we have now. We are playing teams in our schedule that aren't very good, and we can't even beat them! What does that say about us? Come on, figure it out. We are wasting valuable time for our program, time we can't afford. Dr. Maggard has often stated winning the Sun Belt is the immediate goal, and we aren't close.

Pfftt.. Maggard's only immediate goal is to get this stadium done so he can get tf outta here.

[Jacob81]

This team is underperforming. You have to be blind not to see it. That is where we are now after 2 years. To say it will improve is pure speculation based on nothing.
There is a gigantic difference in the teams under Napier and what we have now. We are playing teams in our schedule that aren't very good, and we can't even beat them! What does that say about us? Come on, figure it out. We are wasting valuable time for our program, time we can't afford. Dr. Maggard has often stated winning the Sun Belt is the immediate goal, and we aren't close.

We’re not that far. 4 of our 5 conference losses are by 1 score and the other we lost our starting qb when it was still a game.

[ULGrad@HOU]

Pfftt.. Maggard's only immediate goal is to get this stadium done so he can get tf outta here.

Well, can't deny that's on his personal agenda. The Sun Belt Championship is what he publicly states for the team, at least in the past.

[Million$Mullet]

We’re not that far. 4 of our 5 conference losses are by 1 score and the other we lost our starting qb when it was still a game.

Now do Billy’s record in one score games while here.

[ULGrad@HOU]

We’re not that far. 4 of our 5 conference losses are by 1 score and the other we lost our starting qb when it was still a game.

Losing by 1 score, and saying it was close is misleading. The other team had additional chances also, it wasn't like they were going to lay down if we scored.

[ManAboutTown]

We’re not that far. 4 of our 5 conference losses are by 1 score and the other we lost our starting qb when it was still a game.

Jacob, I love ya brother but you're focusing on irrelevant details. Those teams we're "losing to by 1 score" are not good football teams. What are we not far from? We are 2 years removed from an SBC championship and the nation's longest winning streak.

We're approaching MBB level propaganda here...