JMU Ranked

[JamesTheJeweler]

They're the "whiniest puppy in the litter" because if Tulane drops a second game and JMU wins out, they'd be in line for a NY6 Bowl as the top ranked G5 conference champ.

THAT'S the issue. They have damn good reason to "whine", and considering we won't be in the conference championship game, we should support them in their "whining".

Some accused us of "whining" when Covid Carolina cancelled the SBC Champ game over BS, but we had good reason, as us winning and somehow Cincy losing (didn't happen) their game would have put us in the same position.

The NCAA is seriously screwing over James Madison right now, and the Sunbelt.

LoL! Dude, the rules were very clear when they moved up.

[Jacob81]

Yeah. Rules are the same wether you’re 6-6 or 12-0

[Cajunrunner]

LoL! Dude, the rules were very clear when they moved up.

Sure they were.

But come on, man. At this point, if we stand no chance of ruining the chances (we're knocked out of the SBC Champ game), we should want to see one from our conference in a NY6.

Hell, especially instead of Tulane considering in-state pickings of recruits after LSU grabs who they want.

[Jacob81]

Sure they were.

But come on, man. At this point, if we stand no chance of ruining the chances (we're knocked out of the SBC Champ game), we should want to see one from our conference in a NY6.

Hell, especially instead of Tulane considering in-state pickings of recruits after LSU grabs who they want.

I don’t disagree. I’d like JMU in and Tulane out. Just don’t think the ncaa screwed JMU. Now maybe with all these teams coming up they should change the rule.

[Turbine]

The NCAA is seriously screwing over James Madison right now, and the Sunbelt.

The Sunbelt will participate by not letting JM play in the Sunbelt championship, all because they don't want to have a conference Champion who is staying home, denied eligibility.

Doesn't look good on the SBC. So what.

There was no conference championship game at the time but the SBC did the same thing to ULM in 2005 when they didn't even consider ULM on paper and eliminated them from championship consideration all because they didn't want a team with a losing record, to possibly be the SBC bowl representative when they couldn't go.

So they eliminated ULM and what it did was, it made Arkansas State have the tiebreaker over Louisiana in a two-way tie. Whereas with the real three-way tie that existed in 2005 Louisiana would have been the champion.

But by freaking out, the Sun Belt denied ULM, and thus denied Louisiana its rightful regular season championship.

[R1Letterman]

They're the "whiniest puppy in the litter" because if Tulane drops a second game and JMU wins out, they'd be in line for a NY6 Bowl as the top ranked G5 conference champ.

THAT'S the issue. They have damn good reason to "whine", and considering we won't be in the conference championship game, we should support them in their "whining".

Some accused us of "whining" when Covid Carolina cancelled the SBC Champ game over BS, but we had good reason, as us winning and somehow Cincy losing (didn't happen) their game would have put us in the same position.

The NCAA is seriously screwing over James Madison right now, and the Sunbelt.

Sunbelt could declare them conf champ in that scenario.

[R1Letterman]

Imagine if Kennesaw has our own players who transfer there and don't have to sit out because they are fcs, playing against us once the move up. That is why the rule exists. It is a good rule, but it does seem like it is not applied evenly to all sports. Maybe one could argue it "WAS" a good rule. Maybe it should change but not in middle of one team's two year cycle.

[R1Letterman]

If tulane wins two straight NY6 games, I bet their fans would be much more upset about traveling to a team that plays on road vs FCS, then we are about playing on road at FCS

[R1Letterman]

Yeah. Rules are the same wether you’re 6-6 or 12-0

Ironically if you are 6-6 with 2 wins vs fcs that waiver has priority over the jmu waiver. Also if you are 6-6 and played 2 fcs but one is a loss you are still eligible with no waiver needed.

[cajun4life]

Sure they were.

But come on, man. At this point, if we stand no chance of ruining the chances (we're knocked out of the SBC Champ game), we should want to see one from our conference in a NY6.

Hell, especially instead of Tulane considering in-state pickings of recruits after LSU grabs who they want.

I agree with you. The two year ineligibility rule is stupid. JMU would smash Tulane.

The NCAA selectively enforces what they want anyway.

It’s a crock of poop.

[Turbine]

Ironically if you are 6-6 with 2 wins vs fcs that waiver has priority over the jmu waiver. Also if you are 6-6 and played 2 fcs but one is a loss you are still eligible with no waiver needed.

Loophole in their logic.

[Jacob81]

Imagine if Kennesaw has our own players who transfer there and don't have to sit out because they are fcs, playing against us once the move up. That is why the rule exists. It is a good rule, but it does seem like it is not applied evenly to all sports. Maybe one could argue it "WAS" a good rule. Maybe it should change but not in middle of one team's two year cycle.

Is this only hypothetical?? I believe Kennesaw state will be fbs next year and a member of cusa. But players can transfer there and play without sitting out anyway, just like any other school they would transfer too. As long as it’s said players first transfer.

[ZoomZoom]

Virginia AG taking on the NCAA, or threatening to.

I like his anti-trust angle, but based on straight up rules, the Dukes knew the deal going in.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...dison-football

[Turbine]

Virginia AG taking on the NCAA, or threatening to.

I like his anti-trust angle, but based on straight up rules, the Dukes knew the deal going in.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...dison-football

You are not wrong.

Then again, the O'Banions knew the rules when the signed their scholarships.

It didn't stop them from sueing for Name Image and Likeness.

[Swamp]

The Sunbelt will participate by not letting JM play in the Sunbelt championship, all because they don't want to have a conference Champion who is staying home, denied eligibility.

Doesn't look good on the SBC. So what.

There was no conference championship game at the time but the SBC did the same thing to ULM in 2005 when they didn't even consider ULM on paper and eliminated them from championship consideration all because they didn't want a team with a losing record, to possibly be the SBC bowl representative when they couldn't go.

So they eliminated ULM and what it did was, it made Arkansas State have the tiebreaker over Louisiana in a two-way tie. Whereas with the real three-way tie that existed in 2005 Louisiana would have been the champion.

But by freaking out, the Sun Belt denied ULM, and thus denied Louisiana its rightful regular season championship.

I remember that season we'll. A frat bro of mine was from and played at West Monroe. He said they (ULM) had made those "Live Strong" bracelets with "Win Belt, Win Bowl" embossed on them.