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  1. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    . . . there are lots of words in this post that I never did say . . . but that is how you guys operate . . . all I said was a decision was made to hire CMD . . . I announced it here as soon as the decision was made . . . many did not believe it and many had a fit about it . . . now it appears that many of the reasons why that was the decision are coming out and again many who know nothing are having fits . . . its how this board works . . .
    I hate to break it to you, and this is gonna sting.....but way before you ever posted your "inside info" about Des, I was already told days before by.....wait for it......MAT! And a day or so later......JMV. Your little bird must be a carrier pigeon, cause fedex beat you to the punch by a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunVic View Post
    . . . don't fool yourselves, if this in fact happened, and these two were targeted/interviewed, it is most certain that the interview revealed that we were not even close in the ballpark of acceptable salaries for that quality and experience of coach and it is prime evidence that there was no coach that would have been revealed in a further search which would have been acceptable to the talking heads on this board and that would have come to Louisiana for $750,000 . . . CMD then became our guy . . . the only guy . . . reality is always much different than made up stuff . . .
    You continually push this, "750k was all we could afford", "750k was our max budget", narrative as if it's fact. Have your bird fly over some receipts for us to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler View Post
    I hate to break it to you, and this is gonna sting.....but way before you ever posted your "inside info" about Des, I was already told days before by.....wait for it......MAT! And a day or so later......JMV. Your little bird must be a carrier pigeon, cause fedex beat you to the punch by a long shot.
    You would have to ask MAT to confirm but I think I told him? I can't remember. I know for sure I told this board before anyone else said anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I can unequivocally state MAT did not post about it at the time.

    If he had, I could have saved myself 20 posts about no search being done.

    In my 20 posts about no search, I was not corrected once. Not by MAT, Not by you. By no one.

    Disinformation can't straddle a crack that wide.
    I know me and MAT have sources that said he was on campus and those sources I believe. You can debate that if you want. You can't debate MAT posted this on this site. No I am not going to do research, etc to prove you wrong. One of the board trolls probably commented on his post and then poof you probably had to remove numerous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView View Post
    For the record 3.1 million was offered to Billy to stay. Any idiot that is saying all UL could afford was $750K is out of their mind.
    Vic: "that money was only earmarked for Billy! Any other coach they wouldn't pay for!"

    The two coaches who have had the most success here were both coordinators/assistants for P5 schools and brought with them a network of connections that helped with assistant coaches and recruiting. Both of them also started here at around the same money as Des.

    The difference is Des has experience as a tight end coach and has very few connections outside of this area. AND we paid him what we had established would be enough to bring in a qualified candidate for a bigger program.

    And yes.. if that coach turned in two more 1 or 2 loss seasons, he'd be drawing outside interest as well...

    So let's bury our heads in the sand and accept mediocrity because the alternative is that our successful program would be looking for our third coach in 10 years

  6. #96

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    Anyone who does any bare minimum research can put together a list of more qualified candidates who would have come here for 750k or less. That narrative is an excuse used by idiots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    Anyone who does any bare minimum research can put together a list of more qualified candidates who would have come here for 750k or less. That narrative is an excuse used by idiots.
    Anyone can do it.

    No one has.

    It would require knowing who was available, what their income was at the time, what their prospects were, were they considered successful, what their experience level was then, were they disgruntled, are they a mover, what kind of offense do they run, defense, what are their connections, will the donors appreciate their status?

    Going back now the looming aspect is would their experiece level now influence how we percive them today instead of how they were percieved then. Even if you interviewed the coaches from then, they would not give you an accurate picture of where they stood at that moment in time.

    I'm not going back in time and deciphering all that, it makes the the question asked, unknowable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Anyone can do it.

    No one has.

    It would require knowing who was available, what their income was at the time, what their prospects were, were they considered successful, what their experience level was then, were they disgruntled, are they a mover, what kind of offense do they run, defense, what are their connections, will the donors appreciate their status?

    Going back now the looming aspect is would their experiece level now influence how we percive them today instead of how they were percieved then. Even if you interviewed the coaches from then, they would not give you an accurate picture of where they stood at that moment in time.

    I'm not going back in time and deciphering all that, it makes the the question asked, unknowable.
    You are wrong. Plenty of people put out list back then. I was one of them. This isn’t rocket science.

    Back to back top 25 seasons, coming off a 13-1 record…plenty of names would have wanted this job. The hire was lazy and set the football program back years. It told the community that they do not care about growing the brand.

  9. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    You are wrong. Plenty of people put out list back then. I was one of them. This isn’t rocket science.

    Back to back top 25 seasons, coming off a 13-1 record…plenty of names would have wanted this job. The hire was lazy and set the football program back years. It told the community that they do not care about growing the brand.
    100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    You are wrong. Plenty of people put out list back then. I was one of them. This isn’t rocket science.
    Back then was back then. Back then (in real time) would require copy>paste>save but would have been fairly easy in real time.

    Doing a back then right now is another matter.

    If you did a back then, back then, it probably required a document that you still have.

    Some would like to reminisce on the search that never was.

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