11.10.23 Fallout - gloves off

[zeppelincajun]

So if the most dominant coach in the league for any particular year was not a good coach, does that mean there are ZERO good coaches in the Sun Belt? That seems like a very balanced and reasonable stance.

[ManAboutTown]

What is the metric by which we can say without question that Napier is a very good coach? Just one example.

As succinctly as I can, 4 solid years of results. Anyone that can come to Lafayette, LA, get it ranked, in contention of a NY6 bowl and leave it as a desirable job (rather than the coaching graveyard that it previously was) is an outstanding head football coach.

[CajunVic]

. . . so HUD would have been an outstanding head coach had he left after year 4 but he stayed and turned into a dud, which may have happened to a Napier had he stayed through the commencement of NIL and free transfer . . . maybe the difference between Stud and Dud is really only timing . . .

[JAB]

As succinctly as I can, 4 solid years of results. Anyone that can come to Lafayette, LA, get it ranked, in contention of a NY6 bowl and leave it as a desirable job (rather than the coaching graveyard that it previously was) is an outstanding head football coach.

At least you can admit that the program was (and maybe still is) a dumpster fire.

[CajunVic]

As succinctly as I can, 4 solid years of results. Anyone that can come to Lafayette, LA, get it ranked, in contention of a NY6 bowl and leave it as a desirable job (rather than the coaching graveyard that it previously was) is an outstanding head football coach.

. . . now do baseball . . .

[JAB]

So if the most dominant coach in the league for any particular year was not a good coach, does that mean there are ZERO good coaches in the Sun Belt? That seems like a very balanced and reasonable stance.

All I said is that I'm not yet convinced that Napier is a good coach. He certainly might be. He was extremely successful at UL, otherwise Florida wouldn't have taken a chance on him.

My point is that, as it currently stands, his only claim to fame was the ability to perform well in the Sun Belt Conference. He's had effectively no success in the more challenging SEC. So if you define "good coach" as someone who can perform well in the Sun Belt, then yea, he's a great coach. However, if you define a "good coach" as someone who can perform well on a national stage, then he hasn't proven himself. Maybe he will prove himself in the future, but he hasn't done so yet. It's really simple.

[CajunVic]

All I said is that I'm not yet convinced that Napier is a good coach. He certainly might be. He was extremely successful at UL, otherwise Florida wouldn't have taken a chance on him.

My point is that, as it currently stands, his only claim to fame was the ability to perform well in the Sun Belt Conference. He's had effectively no success in the more challenging SEC. So if you define "good coach" as someone who can perform well in the Sun Belt, then yea, he's a great coach. However, if you define a "good coach" as someone who can perform well on a national stage, then he hasn't proven himself. Maybe he will prove himself in the future, but he hasn't done so yet. It's really simple.

. . . 32 might need it more simple than that . . .

[Turbine]

All I said is that I'm not yet convinced that Napier is a good coach. He certainly might be. He was extremely successful at UL, otherwise Florida wouldn't have taken a chance on him.

My point is that, as it currently stands, his only claim to fame was the ability to perform well in the Sun Belt Conference. He's had effectively no success in the more challenging SEC. So if you define "good coach" as someone who can perform well in the Sun Belt, then yea, he's a great coach. However, if you define a "good coach" as someone who can perform well on a national stage, then he hasn't proven himself. Maybe he will prove himself in the future, but he hasn't done so yet. It's really simple.

Bill Belichick isn't a very good coach if you just look at the last two years.

[CajunVic]

Bill Belichick isn't a very good coach if you just look at the last two years.

. . . ouch, shame on you . . .

[zeppelincajun]

. . . 32 might need it more simple than that . . .

The nickname!!!

[zeppelincajun]

All I said is that I'm not yet convinced that Napier is a good coach. He certainly might be. He was extremely successful at UL, otherwise Florida wouldn't have taken a chance on him.

My point is that, as it currently stands, his only claim to fame was the ability to perform well in the Sun Belt Conference. He's had effectively no success in the more challenging SEC. So if you define "good coach" as someone who can perform well in the Sun Belt, then yea, he's a great coach. However, if you define a "good coach" as someone who can perform well on a national stage, then he hasn't proven himself. Maybe he will prove himself in the future, but he hasn't done so yet. It's really simple.

Why worry about Billy’s success at Florida? UL fans should be concerned with UL and only UL at any and all times. Any mention of other programs is weird and obsessive. In the UL bubble you suggest, Billy is the greatest coach of all time.

[CajunVic]

Why worry about Billy’s success at Florida? UL fans should be concerned with UL and only UL at any and all times. Any mention of other programs is weird and obsessive. In the UL bubble you suggest, Billy is the greatest coach of all time.

. . . 32 adopting Vic logic . . .

[ManAboutTown]

At least you can admit that the program was (and maybe still is) a dumpster fire.

Unlike you, who refuses to admit he's a TSAB troll.

I admitted a fact: Historically, coaches didn't progress beyond this job. At the same time, coaches hired here had absolutely nothing to recruit to. Facilities, amenities, stronger conference and recent success have turned this job into a desirable G5 post.

[CajunVic]

A moron might think that, yes.

. . . your charm is so adorable . . . in fact it is 100% rock solid correct when it flares up . . .

[ManAboutTown]

. . . your charm is so adorable . . . in fact it is 100% rock solid correct when it flares up . . .

It's just the best when you tell on yourself. So fun.