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    This is a great thread. I was wondering the same thing. From what I gather. Qbs are no longer comfortable taking under center snaps, but we were on our 3rd center so it was probably worse to line up in shot gun as the center was botching every snap.


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    If you gonna use the shot gun and give to Cabodie up the middle just direct snap to him and get an extra blocker. Maybe a Miguel type as a fullback that could push from behind also. Snapping to the QB there just wastes time.


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    outside of a qb sneak, which i would have no problem with, has anyone timed the difference between a snap under center, turning and taking two to three steps back to hand it off to the rb, vs a shotgun snap and give it to him right there? i havent taken the time to do it, wondering if anyone else has.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    outside of a qb sneak, which i would have no problem with, has anyone timed the difference between a snap under center, turning and taking two to three steps back to hand it off to the rb, vs a shotgun snap and give it to him right there? i havent taken the time to do it, wondering if anyone else has.
    Id like to see that number as well. Include QB sneek time in there.

    A tenth of a second could be the diference between scoring, winning, and going home, disapointed.

    ps Originally the under center question was brought up to fix all the low snaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    outside of a qb sneak, which i would have no problem with, has anyone timed the difference between a snap under center, turning and taking two to three steps back to hand it off to the rb, vs a shotgun snap and give it to him right there? i havent taken the time to do it, wondering if anyone else has.
    Where the biggest difference is that under center the running back is firing off forward and has momentum going forward when the ball is received. If he is next to the QB in the gun he is at a dead stop when the ball is received then takes off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    Where the biggest difference is that under center the running back is firing off forward and has momentum going forward when the ball is received. If he is next to the QB in the gun he is at a dead stop when the ball is received then takes off.
    . . . doesn't he take off from about the same spot and in one instance it is with the ball and the other it is without . . . help me here . . .

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    The snap is different as well, maybe the centers don't have enough experience either


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    Where the biggest difference is that under center the running back is firing off forward and has momentum going forward when the ball is received. If he is next to the QB in the gun he is at a dead stop when the ball is received then takes off.
    he is still starting off from the same spot. if hes next to qb in shot gun or behind qb under center, he still starts from a still position the same distance behind the line of scrimmage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    Where the biggest difference is that under center the running back is firing off forward and has momentum going forward when the ball is received. If he is next to the QB in the gun he is at a dead stop when the ball is received then takes off.
    RB can move forward at the first hike ball movement.

    Shotgun delivery creates an ever so slight delay on RB moving forward as it requires ball flight delivery to QB... hand adjustment of ball... turn around... stuff the gut... RB begins momentum.

    Under center hike should allow RB momentum, perfect hand placement, simultaneous step turn, and stuff into gut of the oncoming RB freight train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RougaWhite&Blue View Post
    The snap is different as well, maybe the centers don't have enough experience either
    Valid unknown

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